Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)

[Bjord]

You also seem to get more experienced people against you when you're on a winning streak. Had a 7 win streak once and on the 8th match, we got completely smashed even though I won against Shadow Fiend in mid as Lion. He just farmed his sould back, got a DD rune and went top for a double kill and he snowballed like crazy from that point. Didn't matter that our carries had good farm, they just squished us in team fights.

I guess it's to prevent people from getting easy wins, i.e 5-man premades on TS/Skype with decent teamwork crushing lesser premades. It's a good system, makes you learn by getting stomped.

Key to winning is superior last hitting, and then of course positioning and timing etc.

[Miwiw]

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/10855-new-patch-adds-automatic-gg   

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[IR_Kuoin]

Every game I played today got me matched against people with >500 wins. Our guy with most wins was Autobus with 150 wins. At worst it matched us against people with minimum of 200 wins.

What the fuck dota?

I personally got only 64 wins

Actually it was 268 wins (me). When you que with 5man you are going to get put against another 5 man (if possible) or at least a premade team and therefore a two guys with 500 + wins who are in a party with 50 - 150 wins can get matched against similar put teams. If you want to get qued with lower win players, have only guys with >100 wins. Easiest way to get lower down if you go 5 premade.

[Miwiw]

If you create a team and do team matches, you won't get more wins but you still get queued as usual against other 5 men teams. As said before I had a team match vs another team which had 10-20 wins each.

It's also nice with Cptn's Mode and a bit of competetive enviornment like banning heroes.

[Overdriven]

Yeah we had a level 135 guy when our highest level was 30  Can't remember how many wins he had.

[Korgoth]

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[Korgoth]

Also Abaddon's ulti has a new visual. I like this because it makes it's easier to tell when he is in borrowed time, it's sometimes hard to see straight away in the middle of a fight.

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[Christo]

Doesn't it make a loud bell sound though?

If I'm correct that is borrowed time, you can't miss it.

'tis good to have a visual indication though, I don't mind 

[Korgoth]

Doesn't it make a loud bell sound though?

If I'm correct that is borrowed time, you can't miss it.

'tis good to have a visual indication though, I don't mind 

Most of the time I'm too busy screaming to hear it

[Korgoth]

New Abaddon raven-themed set added to test client

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[Christo]

Ravenhorse, Horseraven

wat

[Everkistus]

Actually it was 268 wins (me). When you que with 5man you are going to get put against another 5 man (if possible) or at least a premade team and therefore a two guys with 500 + wins who are in a party with 50 - 150 wins can get matched against similar put teams. If you want to get qued with lower win players, have only guys with >100 wins. Easiest way to get lower down if you go 5 premade.

We only played 1 game with you yesterday out of 5. On the rest of them Autobus had highest wins count, and we still regularly got matched against people with way more wins.

[Vibe]

Yes this was a major problem yesterday. The matchmaking sure likes to buttfuck you after release I noticed.

To give a more detailed example, our team was this (win count per player): ~150, 94, ~63, ~30, <10 while their team was 200+, 300+, 300+, 400+, 600+

I mean what the hell. And we weren't on a winning streak. And they matched us 3 or 4 games like this, with us having 2 newbie players and 2 players below 100 wins, while they had 200-600 wins. I wouldn't mind if it matched us against people with 100-200 wins (even then it would be unfair because we had 2 *almost complete* rookies), but this was just beyond silly. There is no way we can teach our rookies if we get guys like this that even the most experienced players on our team have problems dealing with.

I do see that there seems to be a real problem regarding this though, if you check the patch notes (not to mention there are people posting how fucked MM is lately on several different forums):

- When matching parties, the matchmaker now also considers the minimum experience level on both teams rather than just the average.
- Fixed a bug in the matchmaker that was causing it to insufficiently segregate players based on win count.

[Thovex]

Looks like they are working on the matchmaking with those new patches.

[Christo]

That is good news, good news indeed.