Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)

[Gravoth_iii]

WTF the new patch, seems.. weird.. and AWESOME!

[Christo]

Holy crap what a changelog

[Tom Cruise]

So many items and heroes and items make me confused. I can't decide if they get buffed or nerfed or both or meh idk fuck this.

edit: so my mouse icon accidentally landed on darkseers change.  cheeky icefrog

double edit: ok I need to talk about some of these heroes and items and bullshit

Large talk incoming

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Elder Titan
Added Aghanim's Scepter: Causes units that are pulled in by Earth Splitter to be disarmed in addition to being slowed. Slow/disarm duration increased from 3/4/5 to 4/5/6.
-Dats pretty damn good aghs ulti imo.

Lycan

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get fucked you twilight pussy

Ogre Magi

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Slots Machines. Here we come Vegas $$$$$

Phantom Cancer (my precious)
-Can't tell if they buffed or nerfed my baby. These new abilities are interesting, but since they took away his old ulti, he and his illusions won't be as powerful and are now more reliant on items. So it seems like he is going to have to farm even harder and be less of a pusher? No clue yet. Hopefully they didn't hurt him :'(

Sniper

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Because let's keep buffing this twerp

Sven

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Techies

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fuck you dorks. I don't care.

Undying

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Necrophos
Heartstopper Aura is now negative regeneration instead of HP Removal
-Thank fucking Christo. That is literally just constant auto attacks basically. Can drive you right out of a lane and stop you from farming well.

Now for items and other changes. 

Roshan. Wondering what this will created for different strategies.

Bounty rune. Feel like this is a double edged rune. This can either catch up a big loss if you are behind in a lane, let's say mid, as well as give you an even bigger lead if you are already winning, then you will just be out of control and way ahead of everyone.

All pick mode. What? Did it just basically turn into a captains mode essentially? Just with the players picking themselves?

[Gravoth_iii]

Ogre magi literally best hero now, also undying aghanims maybe a viable choice.

[Shemaforash]

holy shit

[Vibe]

i don't know how i feel about this much change

[IR_Kuoin]

Some of these changes ... why ?

[Overdriven]

I really don't like the sound of some of these but ah well.

[Vibe]

I'm just glad Tinker got a nerf to march, even though not as good of a nerf as I've hoped. (ok read through items now, a bit bigger nerf than I originally thought)

EDIT: also this

One more thing: we on the Dota 2 team have a number of updates in the works right now that we’re really excited about, some for the rest of this year, and a big update for early next year. But we’re pretty sure we won’t be able to make enough progress on the larger update if we put it down to work on Diretide – so we’ve decided that we’re not going to ship a Diretide event this year. We know that last year we weren’t clear enough in our communication about this, so this year we wanted to be up front about it early. Next year will bring monumental changes to Dota 2, and we’re confident that when you’ve seen what we’ve been working on, you’ll agree it was worth it.

Big update next year? I wonder.

[SixThumbs]

I had been working on my Earth Spirit chops but now it seems boulder smashing is going to be slightly less satisfying when I shove one into the enemy from way in the fog or nabbing the dude that thinks he's getting away from a fight. A little brainstorming would be needed for his new aghs ulti, I'm not sure how useful that would actually be besides saving dead teammates easier. On a side-note, I also don't know why the game lists him as a carry, he feels more like a support that just needs levels and he kind of falls off later in the game when ~150 damage per skill doesn't really amount to much and people have bkbs.

All in all I'm mostly indifferent to the hero changes but I'm not sure about the new item and I'm not entirely keen on the map and rune changes. It seems like ice frog or valve or whoever wants to start forcing fights earlier and streamline the mechanics a bit with damage types and deforestation.

Edit: Now you can actually TP away from sniper if you stumble upon him, Tinker can't farm ancients as soon as march is maxed and Tusks ice shards now have a lot more utility. 100 gold TP means I hope more of my teammates will carry them and I spend less gold on them all the time.

Edit edit: I just realized you can turn the enemy into stone remnants with Earth Spirit, which means he's become insane at pulling an enemy hero way out of position now.

[Herkkutatti666]

I mostly like all of the new agha upgrades(mostly elder titan's,sven's and trent's), but it seems like a good patch in general.

[Overdriven]

Expect to see bottle in lane a lot more. If there are 2 runes to bottle every 2 mins, either both mids will cancel each other out of the off lanes are going to have to start playing for the runes as well. That or roaming will become more of a thing now as runes will be more contested. If you can dominate control of both runes it'll mean a much easier early game/spiral.

Also tower gold bounty reduced. I guess that will emphasise the importance of bounty runes instead.

[Vibe]

Expect to see bottle in lane a lot more. If there are 2 runes to bottle every 2 mins, either both mids will cancel each other out of the off lanes are going to have to start playing for the runes as well. That or roaming will become more of a thing now as runes will be more contested. If you can dominate control of both runes it'll mean a much easier early game/spiral.

Also tower gold bounty reduced. I guess that will emphasise the importance of bounty runes instead.

Reduced tower bounty and increased tower armor and all this stuff is to prevent deathballing early, which was the current meta, so this is good.

Are bounty runes even bottleable (is that a word even)?

[Prpavi]

(All) Good game - Counts as calling GG in an official game
(All) Good game, well played - Counts as calling GG in an official game

Wut we are able to forefeit now or?

[Thovex]

no pubscrub games aren't official games.