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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1845 on: November 15, 2013, 12:35:25 am »
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« Reply #1846 on: November 15, 2013, 01:35:17 am »
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Tried them on the test client, they're fun to play, especially Earth Spirit. Cool combo is Batrider ults an enemy and you pull him with your 1000 range pull :)


I just had a bit of fun with him in a bot match and I can at least play him better then I did Storm the few times I tried. I hit level 3 with a point in each skill and placed a remnant behind the enemy, pulled the remnant while going into rock form and ran behind to shove them back in favorable position; ideally that's how it worked. I mucked up several times trying to shove the remnant to silence enemies or shove teammates into fleeing enemies.

I'm wondering what other clever things you can do with his skills. His ultimate I also didn't really pull off at all, I guess you anticipate the location of the team fight and drop a couple remnants and when they get clustered you'd try to get in the middle and use it? I just managed to waste it three times.
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1847 on: November 15, 2013, 02:47:44 am »
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1848 on: November 15, 2013, 05:28:32 am »
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1849 on: November 15, 2013, 07:25:03 am »
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Really want to play ember spirit, but ivans ruin all my games atm and I can't play normally.

Oh wow, finally a game that isn't early abandoned. I had a guy that raged at us for a teammate picking riki before him, called us hero stealers, then left. lol
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« Reply #1850 on: November 15, 2013, 07:52:58 am »
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I'm wondering what other clever things you can do with his skills. His ultimate I also didn't really pull off at all, I guess you anticipate the location of the team fight and drop a couple remnants and when they get clustered you'd try to get in the middle and use it? I just managed to waste it three times.

You can place the remnants pretty fast so you can do it mid fight and then use your ult and it'll do a lot of damage. After that you should try rolling over one of the stones so they all get the 80% MS/AS debuff and perhaps even push one of the stones so they get silenced as well.

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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1851 on: November 15, 2013, 07:56:04 am »
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/383975906

I had 0 idea what I'm doing, but it was fun

that omnislash-knockoff skill is very good
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« Reply #1852 on: November 15, 2013, 07:59:57 am »
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Ember Spirits "free radiance" shield is so good for early game, the damage it does is ridiculous and his W is essentially a 50 mana low cooldown Omnislash :D

I'm still not sure whether to actually build maelstrom/mjollnir on him or rather just crit and battlefury stacking.

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« Reply #1853 on: November 15, 2013, 09:00:36 am »
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1854 on: November 15, 2013, 09:34:02 am »
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Ember Spirit win rate after 15000 games total on dotabuff: 36.60%
Earth Spirit win rate after 12000 games total on dotabuff: 29.90%

Seems like there is a lot to learn  :)
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1856 on: November 15, 2013, 01:30:03 pm »
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Ember Spirits "free radiance" shield is so good for early game, the damage it does is ridiculous and his W is essentially a 50 mana low cooldown Omnislash :D

I'm still not sure whether to actually build maelstrom/mjollnir on him or rather just crit and battlefury stacking.
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« Reply #1857 on: November 15, 2013, 01:52:38 pm »
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I hate relying on battlefury cleave though, it's not going to work if the enemy isn't cramped up together, in which case maelstrom might be better since it has better AoE and is much cheaper? I wouldn't consider upgrading to Mjollnir though, because attack speed seems kind of a waste on Ember. So non battlefury build would be something like Phase, Maelstrom, Daedalus and then +damage items like MKB, Divine or maybe even a second Daedalus.

Then again if you have heroes on your team like Seer with his Vacuum or Magnus I would definitely stack Battlefuries, or if you're against someone like PL or Meepo. Not to mention you get good HP and mana regen (Ember needs mana) from all those Battlefuries.

Dunno. I guess in most cases Battlefury really is better even though you have to farm much more gold because it also scales while Maelstrom's chain lightning doesn't and falls off late.

Just thinking out loud.

Also, does Maelstrom proc if there is an active chain lightning currently hopping around? Because if it doesn't it basically means Maelstrom will only proc once per Sleight of Fist.
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Re: Dota 2 cRPG Guild (Discuss Dota here)
« Reply #1858 on: November 15, 2013, 04:16:58 pm »
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You can place the remnants pretty fast so you can do it mid fight and then use your ult and it'll do a lot of damage. After that you should try rolling over one of the stones so they all get the 80% MS/AS debuff and perhaps even push one of the stones so they get silenced as well.

I guess he would be a good follow up for an initiation or if he could pull a remnant through most of the them at the start depending on how fast you can drop remnants. His rolling boulder also makes for an unreliable escape if he can avoid a stun too it seems, it rolls over all terrain and dropping a remnant in front of you a second before lets you roll really fast.

These heroes seem like they'll peak off mid to mid-late game though and are all kind of dependent on getting a level advantage for their skills.
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« Reply #1859 on: November 15, 2013, 05:26:50 pm »
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