Possible solution to future whine

[FICO]

response to whiners: MAKE YOURSELF YOUR OWN MOD THE WAY YOU LIKE IT!!!
well, chadz did it.
if chadz can do it, you can too!
noooo?
THEN STFU YOU LAZY FART!

[Lanic0r]

Standard. When the weapons ain't op anymore, people want to grab the next one. Never fails.

WRONG!
I choose weapons you need skill for.
And to "go for next OP weapon" is for COWARDS. Thats why most cowards use 2h (2h Swords ) and they even are supported by the donkey crew last 3 patches.
Give us your calculation, a matrix or whatever you use.
The obnoxious thing is a OP weapon, and if you dont have a calculation system they always will be a OP weapon.
Disclose the Damage System you use to let us find unbalanced properties!

[Beauchamp]

response to whiners: MAKE YOURSELF YOUR OWN MOD THE WAY YOU LIKE IT!!!
well, chadz did it.
if chadz can do it, you can too!
noooo?
THEN STFU YOU LAZY FART!

well there still should be some balance. i don't believe chadz is making his mod only for his own pleasure but also for the players in the end. on the other hand some people are going completely mental when their cookie is taken of.

[BlackMilk]

WRONG!
I choose weapons you need skill for.
And to "go to for next OP weapon" is for COWARDS. Thats why most cowards use 2h and they even are supported by the donkey crew last 3 patches.

Nah,most cowards use a Huscarl Shield with a Side Sword and a Long Hafted Spiked Mace (no skill needed at all, get out of the enemies range and spam).

[Cyclopsided]

The game is really nice now balance wise, tbh.

[Adhonis]

 Changing retirement to a simple respec will make this game a normal one instead of crpg mode.

Make retirement usefull, high lvl players will heirloom their items ( and more since some are lost or they have to change spec) and the cicle of life will start again.

[yakri]

Most people dont "whine" because of a minor advantage they lost. They whine because all their "work" to get a masterwork something was a waste of time.

I hate patches because they always turn out as a new grind marathon getting started.

Deleting the database would mean even more grind.

Why not the other way around, no grind at all, every char starts with all the attribute and skill points a char has at level 31 and all you have to do is to spend the points the way you want?

And upgrade items not for grinders but for donators.

Oh god no.

That is effectively selling better in game items for real world money (unless 'donations' is strange mod-specific slang for something. . . .), fuck that.

[Lt_Anders]

To decrease the amount of whine threads, you should do more effective:
PATCH RELEASING

Lets take this patch for example. Instead of Releasing everything at once, release it in stages.

Something like this:
First part of (this) patch: Release the New items, website, new game modes, and animations. Nothing else changes. Give that 3-4 days of letting people play around with their new items to find things they like, bugs with animations, and problems with website. Put fixes into Step 2
Step 2: Release the the Item slot changes and the no sheath limits. DO NOT CHANGE STATS OF ITEMS YET. Let everyone learn how this works, give 5-7 days for testing of these features. Put fixes into Step 3.
Step 3:(Whine time) Release the Item nerfs, price increases, etc. With this release, the final part of the test is done. You will get the whine, the hate, and the praise (most of it, anyway) in this step.

By doing it like this, the patch is released longer, but the damage is gradually absorbed and people can see where there builds are headed over time rather than just "OMG GTX, QQ".

[Camaris]

To decrease the amount of whine threads, you should do more effective:
PATCH RELEASING

Lets take this patch for example. Instead of Releasing everything at once, release it in stages.

Something like this:
First part of (this) patch: Release the New items, website, new game modes, and animations. Nothing else changes. Give that 3-4 days of letting people play around with their new items to find things they like, bugs with animations, and problems with website. Put fixes into Step 2
Step 2: Release the the Item slot changes and the no sheath limits. DO NOT CHANGE STATS OF ITEMS YET. Let everyone learn how this works, give 5-7 days for testing of these features. Put fixes into Step 3.
Step 3:(Whine time) Release the Item nerfs, price increases, etc. With this release, the final part of the test is done. You will get the whine, the hate, and the praise (most of it, anyway) in this step.

By doing it like this, the patch is released longer, but the damage is gradually absorbed and people can see where there builds are headed over time rather than just "OMG GTX, QQ".

I guess if chadz & co had an integrated patch system like mmos or other games they would do it in smaller steps and more often.

[VicTheBear]

Instead of wiping entirely, could we at least keep our strat hero or something?
I've had the same gen-1 character since I started playing crpg back in Jun/Jul/Aug-ish of last year.
I don't even care that there are gen 20 guys out there who can one-shot me with a torch.
I've always had the same build and equipment; I'm emotionally attached 

Come on chadz, put the mouse down and step away from the keyboard.
Let the whiners whine, but don't wipe my character because of it.
*tear*

In all seriousness though, could you put up a poll about this? Just to see some numbers.

[Nasturtium]

chadz is not going to wipe the chars, everyone calm down, this thread should be locked, it is officially silly.

[Keshian]

The game is really nice now balance wise, tbh.

+1 I'd agree.  I think thats why there is so much rage, people using OP weapons find that there favorite tactics no longer make them top the charts.  (the only ones that really needed nerfing though that didnt get it was military pick/warhammer huscarl users.  Those weapons should be like 3 speed slower due to their much higher relative damage.

Vic, he already said the wipe was a joke.  Also, the heirlooming of equipment was seriously nerfed in its benefit for all weapons (much smaller chnages) and the xp was capped at 1450 at x1.  So it really doesn't make much difference what gen you are.

[VVarlord]

though that didnt get it was military pick huscarl users.

God i love it when you talk dirty kesh

[_Savein_]

Wait. So what your saying is when you wipe it, We loose all our gold, And stats. Not coool

But im not sure what your getting at, Someone want to explain?

[Barterboy]

Most people dont "whine" because of a minor advantage they lost. They whine because all their "work" to get a masterwork something was a waste of time.

I hate patches because they always turn out as a new grind marathon getting started.

Deleting the database would mean even more grind.

Why not the other way around, no grind at all, every char starts with all the attribute and skill points a char has at level 31 and all you have to do is to spend the points the way you want?

And upgrade items not for grinders but for donators.

I support this man's suggestion.