nerfed heavy lance (Rage post)

[Leshma]

After that patch all 2h axes got buffed by +3 damage. Yes, PLUS 3 damage. So eg. Great Axe +3 now has 49 cut damage, it's more powerful than polearm axes now.

And unbalanced.

[Duc_OLIVIERO_loliv]

why I change mine against the lance 

[Kafein]

Lancers are the biggest pussies this mod has ever seen. Some even retired their level 35 chars because of this. Grow up, kids.

Losing 20% (if not more, I don't remember) damage over one year with no buff whatsoever, no class ever took that like a man. I did not happen to any other (except archers during one day) either.

[sF_Guardian]

Losing 20% (if not more, I don't remember) damage over one year with no buff whatsoever, no class ever took that like a man. I did not happen to any other (except archers during one day) either.

There really needed to be done something about lancers.

[Leshma]

Losing 20% (if not more, I don't remember) damage over one year with no buff whatsoever, no class ever took that like a man. I did not happen to any other (except archers during one day) either.

Well I would just try playing something else, it's not like I'm born to play 2H... I just play it atm because I haven't acquired everything I need for my main. Only thing I wouldn't play anymore is ranged, but that leaves me with 7 different classes which isn't too bad (shielder, swashbuckler, 2H, 2H cav, lancer, 1H cav, polearms).

Problem is they want to pwn and if they can't pwn they leave the game.

Btw. 10 minutes ago Deserters owned server thanks to having 5 or 6 lancers. Truly UP class...

[Lemmy_Winks]

Just get a great lance and couch people, its inexpensive and you basically always one shot people no matter what. Its pretty fun.

[Leshma]

Now Heavy Lance one shots too, they buffed it. I don't hear lancers mentioning that buff, just nerfs.

[Shemaforash]

A masterwork arrow

This is your problem & solution.

Get bodkins m8????

[Torben]

Now Heavy Lance one shots too, they buffed it. I don't hear lancers mentioning that buff, just nerfs.

silly leshma 

imo couching shoulda stayed nerfed and stabbing should have been buffed. 
either faster stab (shorter window for the bad cav to hit the spot,  better cav vs cav for skilled dudes/ however making them better on foot as well) or a little damage buff to the heavy lance for the poor non loomed players.

but couching,  cheesh -.-


thoughts,  odin?

[Konrax]

Cav has to be one of the easiest classes in the game to play.

Mainly because you can poke stab on horse back, if you had to couch everything then I would say it takes some skill.

[Leshma]

Well I do agree that stabbing should be buffed and couching stay nerfed but they already buffed couching. Now if they buff stabbing, lancer is back to the old values while other classes aren't.

I'm for buffs, but many things need to be buffed alongside lancers, not just heavy lance.

But most of all, I want to see old lance angle back. That was kinda awesome.

[Torben]

Well I do agree that stabbing should be buffed and couching stay nerfed but they already buffed couching. Now if they buff stabbing, lancer is back to the old values while other classes aren't.

I'm for buffs, but many things need to be buffed alongside lancers, not just heavy lance.

nah imo the heavy lance nerf made the other lances a good choice,  a nerf was called for.  however nerfing the most expensive lance  to make it less effective then the lance in everything but frontal outreaching game of great lances and maybe twohanders is to big of a deal. 
they are so slow that you have to trigger your release at a point that gives a huge timeframe for the situation to change. 
I would love to see the heavy lance at its current state but with at least 80,  preferably 84 speed.

[Alexander_TheGreat_]

nah imo the heavy lance nerf made the other lances a good choice,  a nerf was called for.  however nerfing the most expensive lance  to make it less effective then the lance in everything but frontal outreaching game of great lances and maybe twohanders is to big of a deal. 
they are so slow that you have to trigger your release at a point that gives a huge timeframe for the situation to change. 
I would love to see the heavy lance at its current state but with at least 80,  preferably 84 speed.

What was the stats on the old heavy lance?

[BlueKnight]

Now Heavy Lance one shots too, they buffed it. I don't hear lancers mentioning that buff, just nerfs.

1hitting is only when perfect conditions are combined together (for your knowledge). My op 2h character survived couch from heavy lance like a baws. A lot depends on the moving speed of the person that is hit. Some crossbowman who was running away survived my couch(15 str and light-medium armour) and for example some heavy guys die from 1 hit. I don't know if they were wounded already or something but what I know is that their movement speed decides wheather it is 1 or 2 hits

What was the stats on the old heavy lance?

it had 29 pierce at MW and 2 patches ago it had like 32 pierce at MW! like 1 year ago...

[Leshma]

Your alt has 65 armor, mine has 42-48 and it's get one hit every time.