Heavy Crossbow vs Arbalest.

[Tibe]

I think you mean Heavy Crossbow, as the Arbalest sucks towards the end of the round if the enemy knows where you are, because the long reload time; you only get 1-2 shots if there are smart enemies around.

 You get get same, 1-2 shots at the end of the round if you are smart even when you use a HC. At the end of the round with couple of guys on both side it really matters little if you have arbalest or a HC. If 10 damage is really not a big deal to you, than I ask for your looms straight up front, cause everybody pays about a million for just +3 damage.

[FrugFrug]

Stones.

[Nightingale]

Been playing arbalest for awhile, its definitely not worth it, go heavy crossbow. Shouldn't have to explain why, I would just be repeating what everyone else has already said.

[LordBerenger]

Been playing arbalest for awhile, its definitely not worth it, go heavy crossbow. Shouldn't have to explain why, I would just be repeating what everyone else has already said.

Don't listen to Scilla! Go 15/24, +3 Arbalest, +3 Steel Bolts and stack on WM and Ath only!

Hide and shoot. It's great!

[Nightingale]

Don't listen to Scilla! Go 15/24, +3 Arbalest, +3 Steel Bolts and stack on WM and Ath only!

Hide and shoot. It's great!

If you were going for that build why not go 15-27 9 athletics and 8 wm? build is just as accurate as 15-24 but much faster.

At level 32 you could even have 5 ps, 9 athletics and 9 weapon master 180 wpf+ and some WPF for 1 hander or 2 hander whatever floats your boat... If there were more Heavy xbows in Strat I'd definitely change my build, but I don't really play my main anymore besides strat battles. lol (Lame ikr)

[LordBerenger]

If you were going for that build why not go 15-27 9 athletics and 8 wm? build is just as accurate as 15-24 but much faster.

At level 32 you could even have 5 ps, 9 athletics and 9 weapon master 180 wpf+ and some WPF for 1 hander or 2 hander whatever floats your boat... If there were more Heavy xbows in Strat I'd definitely change my build, but I don't really play my main anymore besides strat battles. lol (Lame ikr)

Cuz PS and IF just in case melee happens. Otherwise you'll get 1 shot.

[Nightingale]

Cuz PS and IF just in case melee happens. Otherwise you'll get 1 shot.

Don't listen to Scilla! Go 15/24, +3 Arbalest, +3 Steel Bolts and stack on WM and Ath only!

Hide and shoot. It's great!

Then you are not stacking only WM and athletics, also I have 0 ironflesh I wear medium armor and I never get 1 shot by anything but High powerstrike 2 handers and polearms and some throwers.

[LordBerenger]

Then you are not stacking only WM and athletics, also I have 0 ironflesh I wear medium armor and I never get 1 shot by anything but High powerstrike 2 handers and polearms and some throwers.

Cuz i use Light Light Armor on the STF alt lol.

Light Armor > 1 more ath.

[Nightingale]

Cuz i use Light Light Armor on the STF alt lol.

Light Armor > 1 more ath.

Light armor as in what?

[WITCHCRAFT]

I  have 23 body armor, 15 STR, and no IF. I am shocked at how often it takes 2 or more hits for me to die. Sometimes I find myself running around spattered in blood with 2 arrows and a javelin in me. I probably would go for some wacky 12/33 or more AGI build if arbalests weren't in every important strat battle. And if I'm going to get 15 str anyway I might as well use an arbalest in battle and siege.

[LordBerenger]

Light armor as in what?

Tunics.

[Nightingale]

Thats exactly how I feel Witchcraft, and with tunics you are more likely than not to be hit more than once. With high athletics you should avoid group melee fighting anyway.

[Penguin]

12/27 heavy xbow with 9 wm/9 ath/4 if/ 4ps was/is a fun build (before they nerfed speed while holding xbow you could kite a lot better)

Depending on your strengths, you could put 120+ points in 1h or 2h and still have 150+ for your xbow. If you're a good shooter you could have 180 wpf in xbow and 100 in 1h or 2h. It always used to be funny pulling out a pickaxe or hammer and beating down tin cans who assume you have no ps though its obviously a less viable tactic with all the speed/damage/etc. nerfs

[LordBerenger]

Thats exactly how I feel Witchcraft, and with tunics you are more likely than not to be hit more than once. With high athletics you should avoid group melee fighting anyway.

Inb4 aimbotting archer a'la Aderyn or whatever with Rus, Yumi or Horn Bow +3 1shots you from the other end of the map.

[Silveredge]

I would go with arbalest, I watch Silveredge destroy with it so I imagine he thinks it the best, and ill take his word  on anything crossbow related

I was trying out JesusChrist's Heavy Crossbow.  I would say the reload speed to stopping power ratio is the best on the Heavy Crossbow, if you compare them solely on those two points I would say it would be the best choice.  However the normal Crossbow gives you the most consistent performance per round.  There's a lot more to consider when you're trying to pick which one fits your playstyle.  Slots is another thing you have to think about.  If you're on a map where you will get plenty of time to use up a stack of bolts, the Normal Crossbow is a better weapon(Unless you really dont care at all about melee).  It gives me the option to manually load another stack of bolts when I know I will use them and I don't mind the extra weight.  The Arbalest is a great weapon, but you either rape with it or do poorly.  The Arbalest is the absolute worst crossbow when the other team charges your position or you have a highly mobile fight, however it is the most devastating crossbow in a single shot.  But the Heavy Crossbow is not too far behind.

My favorite is the normal Crossbow, it has the most flexibility out of all of them.  Gives you the option to carry 2 stacks of bolts and still have a reliable weapon if you're 1h, or a good 2h and 1 stack of bolts depending on your wpf.  It does enough damage with headshots to 1-shot most of the cRPG population even at moderate range and in the hands of an efficient crossbowman, can manage in a mobile fight.  The weight nerfs really hurt crossbowmen, its incredible how much slower you move now, this is just another reason to go with the lighter choice.