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[Kulin_ban]

HACKED

[Haboe]

1st reaction after reading, burn in hell
on second thought, might not be a bad idea... 

[Gurnisson]

No thanks.

Would prefer seeing a wpf requirement if there should be any change at all.

40 wpf for hunting xbow
75 wpf for light xbow
100 wpf for xbow
125 wpf for heavy xbow
150 for arbalest

[Panos]

No thanks.

Would prefer seeing a wpf requirement if there should be any change at all.

40 wpf for hunting xbow
75 wpf for light xbow
100 wpf for xbow
125 wpf for heavy xbow
150 for arbalest

no.

No more tin cans running around with a vast amount of IF and plate armor.

[Piok]

I will rather see xbows much more slower with new PR skill reducing reload time and some wpf requirement for higher tier xbows.
 

[Butan]

It would need more skill points per char, or it would seriously gimp crossbowmen. But good idea.

[Kafein]

Crossbows are clumsy objects. It would make sense to increase their slot requirements (maybe increasing the size of the bolt quivers in the process).

[no_rules_just_play]

why would you take a xbow if they are already so slow, you will transfer the current archer problem to xbows by doing this. they wont be good at melee, and they will start kiting.

[Tigero]

No thanks.

Would prefer seeing a wpf requirement if there should be any change at all.

40 wpf for hunting xbow
75 wpf for light xbow
100 wpf for xbow
125 wpf for heavy xbow
150 for arbalest

tHis wouldn't help the retarded overpowerness ov HX at all, I strongly suggest adding some kind of requirement for becoming so deadly at long distances. Maybe just increase str requirement for all low tier xbows and/OR give a +3str penalty for using it horseback

[Panos]

How would investing 3 skill points into crossbow make someone kite? And xbows right now mostly fight only when they have to.

The problem right now is that you only need 1-2 additional WM on your melee build to use crossbow with great effectiveness.

exactly,u see tin cans running around with plate and 6 IF at least with crossbow as their secondary weapon.

[Grumpy_Nic]

New Level 30 build:

7/30

10 Athletics
10 Weaponmaster
5 Shield
2 Power Reload
~ 190ish wpf Xbow

Light Xbow, Bolts, Steel buckler, Wooden Stick 

[no_rules_just_play]

nah dont take the shield, take two lights and shotgun the fuck out of the enemy

[Gurnisson]

exactly,u see tin cans running around with plate and 6 IF at least with crossbow as their secondary weapon.

If they have to invest 100 wpf they'll have to drop some of their IF for WM and will be even easier spammed than before. I seriously feel that a skill point requirement for xbows would gimp them too much. Dedicated xbowmen is in a good place at the moment (except for the decreased effectivity in rain which is just stupid).

[Barracuda]

Adding "power reload" to stop people using xbows as shotguns seems like a drastic solution to something that isn't really a problem. Can anyone write some names of players who regularly do this in EU? I'm not convinced that there are many.

Gurnisson's solution of wpf requirement is much more sensible.

[Grumpy_Nic]

nah dont take the shield, take two lights and shotgun the fuck out of the enemy

yeah, true. maybe take 5 riding instead so I can pick up stray horses and get away from 2h at the end of each round. Actually, there is no need to go xbow anymore. HX is the new xbow