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[spl00gedon]

Riddle me this.... I get one shotted by one hander horsemen with schimitars but can take a couch and a stab from a heavy lance?

[no_rules_just_play]

i played on my cav alt, hadnt played it since a long time. i was with the fallens in ts and they were in the opposite team, so i wanted to couch jtobiasm. I charged on him down a almost flat hill with my heavy lance, on a rouncey and with 5 riding. I couched him but for some insane reason, he didnt die????
he claimed i had hit him in the head, he wears no head armor, and is a archer in tribal warrior outfit. insanity.

[Teeth]

Why should the incredibly strong lances have a one shotting crushtrough attack as well?

Couch lances are for couching.

[naduril]

Because archer should be dead after couching, Teeth, thats the common sense. And now there is no sense in couching with Heavy Lance, Lance or Light Lance. As after it the char is stunned and cant attack or block for a while but the amount of damage deffirs from standart hit not much.

[Teeth]

Because archer should be dead after couching, Teeth, thats the common sense. And now there is no sense in couching with Heavy Lance, Lance or Light Lance. As after it the char is stunned and cant attack or block for a while but the amount of damage deffirs from standart hit not much.

Exactly, couched hit does not do much more damage than a stab hit. Still it has a use, you can't block a couch. So you use the couch only for those perpetual downblockers. Couch lances are for the one shot kill couch, normal lances have a couch to kill downblockers. Perfectly balanced unlike before. Don't use common sense as an argument in this game.

[Smoothrich]

Heavy lance couching used to be, without a doubt, the most OP thing in the game.  It was simply the best, most powerful weapon against every other class in every scenario.  It was around the fourth most damaging polearm on all of EU's servers combined.  IN MELEE MODE ONLY.  Mounted + dismounted heavy lance damage was equal to every other polearm in the game combined, if I recall, every month.

Now all the lances are just "overpowered" instead of "broken."  Only the Heavy Lance feels decent balance wise.

[Spa_geh_tea]

The devs found a clever way to remove couching from thrusting lances.

*applause* 

[Haboe]

Why do you think 1h should be weaker then lance?


Also, a bad placed lance wont kill you where a 1h with full speed bonus in your face will ofc kill you.


Simple ragetopic?

[Joseph Porta]

Because archer should be dead after couching, Teeth, thats the common sense. And now there is no sense in couching with Heavy Lance, Lance or Light Lance. As after it the char is stunned and cant attack or block for a while but the amount of damage deffirs from standart hit not much.

hey look teeth, you got a nice color to your name.

You're so special!

[Kafein]

It was simply the best, most powerful weapon against every other class in every scenario.

Then you find anyone that saw you coming.

[Smoothrich]

Then you find anyone that saw you coming.

Too bad the heavy lance outranges almost every melee weapon, even with couching.  You could safely swerve, couch and insta kill every 2hander in the game, no matter how they tried to juke, evade, or counter attack you.  Thrust outranges hoplites using war spears and 2hand thrusts as well.

[Kafein]

Too bad the heavy lance outranges almost every melee weapon, even with couching.  You could safely swerve, couch and insta kill every 2hander in the game, no matter how they tried to juke, evade, or counter attack you.  Thrust outranges hoplites using war spears and 2hand thrusts as well.

I remember a long time ago I sweared I wouldn't argue with you even about the color of the sky during the day. Guess what I failed.

[Araxiel]

Buff couching damage but also increase its cooldown up to 1 minute to force players use it clever, not to whore around while pressing X.

[Adamar]

Couched lances should kill anything, at the expence of the lance getting stuck in the enemy's body, like a projectile.

[BADPLAYER_old2]

Then you find anyone that saw you coming.

Maybe if you are atrocious at Cavalry, any semi-competent cav beats any other class 1v1 if they have a weapon shorter than a long awlpike.