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[Gmnotutoo]

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[StonedSteel]

, I wholeheartedly believe most admins need to get second and third opinions and also need to take in the general consensus of the players online before anything is done.

that principle should be applied to all scenarios from ALL admins.

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[Bronto]

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yes general consensus from the people on....no offense but that's a terrible idea especially in this community. also, it is my understanding they can go to or do go to admin chat if they need a second opinion.

[Xeen]

Somehow I knew I'd look here and find your thread littered by Vieuxcrotter's crying.  That is conclusive proof that you've been a good admin in siege.

[Maple_Syrup]

Desires administration is second only to that Cyrus HRE guy

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[Nightingale]

Desires administration is second only to that Cyrus HRE guy

Just saying you are lucky you had him! I would have just banned everyone for leeching!

[Muki]

Haven't posted here in awhile keep up the good work, I see and hear your on NA_7 alot now these days

[cap]

Must have been on his period last night because he gave someone a 6 hour ban for submitting a poll.  No warning, no cease and desist, ban.  Great admin work...

[Krynist]

Yea, Desire is usually a great Admin.

That being said, scenario last night was, everyone is swinging at each other before round starts.  Pretty typical.  I'm 3rd in server on DTV (so not just screwing around) and clip someone.  He reports me before round starts.  I ask him why he did this.  He ignores.  So I submitted a poll to VK, as he was abusing the report system, reporting before a round even starts.  Desire banned me on the spot, for abuse of the poll system, as Cap states.

I'm not an admin, obviously, and can't truly speak for what they do because as stated, I'm not one.  I'm not disputing this ban, in the least, in part because from what I see, admins have little to no accountability for their actions.  But again, I'm not an admin, and have no idea how difficult it must be to deal with the immaturity and BS they have to deal with on a daily basis.  What happened happened, and that's fine with me.

What I'm curious about, Desire, is the answer to the question that was put to you before you banned me, that you answered just by banning me.  How is reporting someone for teamwounding you before a round starts and you can't physically take teamwound damage anyways, not abusing the report system?  Thanks in advance for not responding with gibberish and "everyone hates me" stuff, and actually giving an answer that shows you admins do care about the community and the job you do.  I'm sure I'm not the only one out there who has this particular question.  Please note, for the record, I am not calling for a "revenge teamkill" or a "you reported me I kill you" situation.  Just curious for a clarification.

[Nightingale]

Yea, Desire is usually a great Admin.

Thanks for the general compliment.

That being said, scenario last night was, everyone is swinging at each other before round starts.  Pretty typical.  I'm 3rd in server on DTV (so not just screwing around) and clip someone. He reports me before round starts.  I ask him why he did this.  He ignores.  So I submitted a poll to VK, as he was abusing the report system, reporting before a round even starts.  Desire banned me on the spot, for abuse of the poll system, as Cap states.

Yes it is very typical for people to do this, I got no problem with people doing this as long as you aren't griefing someone that doesn't want to be hit. Him reporting you is not against the rules. If you do not want people to report you, then don't swing wildly in spawn, some people get annoyed by that. It is his place to decide if he wants to report you or not, he can come up with ANY reason he likes to.

Basically what happened last night was this : *Swings wildly in spawn, clips random guy* He hits M (Pause: your world must of ended because you made it a big enough deal to the point where because he hit M on you, was good enough reason to remove him from the server.")- I don't mean to sound sarcastic or hateful. Just pointing out the lack of logic behind your action; You have been banned for poll abuse before. The polls are not there for people to remove people they simply disagree with, or dislike, or if that person hits m and you decide your only course of action is to remove him from the server.

I'm not an admin, obviously, and can't truly speak for what they do because as stated, I'm not one.  I'm not disputing this ban, in the least, in part because from what I see, admins have little to no accountability for their actions.  But again, I'm not an admin, and have no idea how difficult it must be to deal with the immaturity and BS they have to deal with on a daily basis.  What happened happened, and that's fine with me.

Okay?

What I'm curious about, Desire, is the answer to the question that was put to you before you banned me, that you answered just by banning me.  How is reporting someone for teamwounding you before a round starts and you can't physically take teamwound damage anyways, not abusing the report system?  Thanks in advance for not responding with gibberish and "everyone hates me" stuff, and actually giving an answer that shows you admins do care about the community and the job you do.  I'm sure I'm not the only one out there who has this particular question.  Please note, for the record, I am not calling for a "revenge teamkill" or a "you reported me I kill you" situation.  Just curious for a clarification.

Its not abuse to my knowledge. You are the one that struck him, regardless if it took all of his HP or barely any to nothing its his choice to report you or not.

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Everyone hates me I have no friends and my feet smell. etc. What makes you think admins don't care about the community? After all we are part of the community as well and have equal reason to wish it to prosper as you and other players do.

[Smoothrich]

M abuse is intentionally jumping in front of teammates to get hit so you can press M and get them kicked, something like that.  Hitting M to report a teamwound (accidental or intentionally done) is not abuse.  You committed Poll Abuse by initiating a kick for a made up rule about M reports.  Poll Abuse is much more frowned on in small servers like DTV because a couple friends can keep people perma kicked/banned off them and grief it for everyone. 

You Deserved It, Bro

[Krynist]

Desire, I appreciate you taking the time to respond.  Thanks for clearing that up, and answering my question.

Smoothrich, I can see you read nothing.  Was not disputing any ban, was asking for a clarification on the ruling.  Thanks for your input, and your opinion.

[cap]

Krynist is gay.

[oprah_winfrey]

Desire, I appreciate you taking the time to respond.  Thanks for clearing that up, and answering my question.

Smoothrich, I can see you read nothing.  Was not disputing any ban, was asking for a clarification on the ruling.  Thanks for your input, and your opinion.

Pretty sure Smooth told you what M abuse is.

[Little Lord Lollipop]

The secret to dealing with those pre-round m key heroes is waiting until they are backpedaling away from bots and then "accidentally" staggering them once (knockdown is even better). They will most likely die and the typical reaction provides for some entertaining reading material. Also be sure to apologize, as admins like to check chat logs. Your welcome.