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Teambalance for horses.
« on: January 01, 2013, 05:59:00 pm »
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I hate it when 8 horseman on the Server and 7 of them are in the other team and my team has only 1 rider. Can you balance it fair? Is it possible?

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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 06:29:45 pm »
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By doing that, you would kind of break one of the reasons why people join a clan: to play together and
it is really frustrating when you're balanced on the other team when you're playing with your clan.

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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 06:50:16 pm »
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cant you still make sure that the clans are always together, but still make sure that it is balanced? its not that gk are the only cav players on eu1

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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2013, 06:50:38 pm »
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By doing that, you would kind of break one of the reasons why people join a clan: to play together and
it is really frustrating when you're balanced on the other team when you're playing with your clan.

With same banner its ok. But when they have different banners they should get switched.
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 07:45:57 pm »
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Class based teambalance has been suggested before.
I get why a lot of ppl want that, but I like the unbalanced class balance as it is. Keeps the rounds variating.

Its forcing some teamwork in there as well, if you have a load of ranged and the enemy a load of cav, you will win if you protect your archers, but if no one does, cav will pick them out and rape you in the open
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 07:53:57 pm »
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Class based teambalance has been suggested before.
I get why a lot of ppl want that, but I like the unbalanced class balance as it is. Keeps the rounds variating.

Its forcing some teamwork in there as well, if you have a load of ranged and the enemy a load of cav, you will win if you protect your archers, but if no one does, cav will pick them out and rape you in the open

You are talking about teamwork (I like teamwork) but teamwork doesnt work very often because those horses destroy, annihilate, crush, kill, obliterate, exterminate, blast and blight all your teammates (out of you and an archer who you are saving)! It isnt that hard to beat riders but MANY people jump with a dagger, NCS, and other short stuff infront of a heavy lance and dont know that they just have to go into a ruin or something else. When 90% of your team is dead you arent able to do something.
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 10:15:27 pm »
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I guess you exaggerate a bit.
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 10:59:00 pm »
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I guess you exaggerate a bit.

A bit...maybe only 87% get killed.
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 11:56:47 pm »
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I'd give my best estimation at 55 percent, for the figure of the amount of teammates that can not, in any way, combat cavalry. There are TONS of players that will never once view the forums, use a build other than their pro-status 22-16 build that features 2 points in throwing and 2 points in riding, or willingly give their full attention to the game. They spawn, press W until they feel that they are in combat, and then they fight. Problem is, they'll often get couched or otherwise killed by cav, and say "Wow that fucking cav is so fucking gay" to themselves, never considering that they could back up against a wall, stay with a polearm friend, etc etc etc. There's no way to fix this except for educating those new players that choose to accept it.

Basically, I do think there should never be more than a 30 percent disparity between the number of cavalry or ranged on either team. These classes are in no way overpowered on their own, but when one team has 200 percent of the other team's cavalry, things are going to get really stupid really fast.
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 12:04:04 am »
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In general the "team balance" needs to be fixed or overhauled because right now generally on EU1 atleast its just all archers on one team and all cav on the other with a bit of inf mixed in for good measure and its just ridiculous more so with quite a few of the maps having hills that make it a nightmare for cav to get up and kill the archers. It seems to me that right now its

1. Archers go and sit on top of a hill
2. Archers start shooting and picking people off (perfectly ok and acceptable)
3. Cav tries to go up hill and kill archers.
4. Cav dies before making it to the archers.
5. Inf try and get up the hill, half die and the archers run down the hill and shoot up and the now slow moving inf.
6. rest of the inf die.
7. New round that repeats the steps.

Class based teambalance has been suggested before.
I get why a lot of ppl want that, but I like the unbalanced class balance as it is. Keeps the rounds variating.

Its forcing some teamwork in there as well, if you have a load of ranged and the enemy a load of cav, you will win if you protect your archers, but if no one does, cav will pick them out and rape you in the open

True that unbalanced teams can spice up the game so to speak but when it is constantly Archers VS Cavalry and the Infantry are just the mop-up squad its not very fun for a majority of the players. I'm not saying unbalanced teams are bad but when teams are constantly stacked with archers vs cav its very boring and frustrating, I mean lets face it the balance right now sucks awfully. 
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Re: Teambalance for horses.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 12:47:29 am »
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Playing right now, load of ranged and cav, result vary by map, and a lot of 4-2 4-3 endings. Rather balanced, btu hard as inf indeed  :mrgreen:
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