Ranged on a roof

[Prpavi]

Buff Ranged!!!!1!

Poor fellas have to climb the roofs illegaly 

[Leshma]

Those are not archers. Those are wizards.

You're so funny. Can you please bring back those bugged ladders that were removed ages ago. It takes awhile but with those ladders every roof is accessible...

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sarcasm, in case someone doesn't get it...

[Michael]

I'd even be fine with re-adding ladders if all roofs were easily accessible by multiple paths (including at least two that cav can get up on easily), but most of the roofs that you can get onto you can only reach by jumping on that fence and then onto that barrel and then onto that rooftop and then onto that other rooftop and then onto that wall and that means it's a long difficult path were the first my old friendcher who got up there can freely fire on everyone else, and people can only go up one person at a time, and cav can't reach it.

As a guy who hasnt played crpg for some months I say if some ranger manages to do all this jumping he deserves a cav-free zone to kill one or two enemies.

Also: What happened to 'buy a shield'?

Lastly: Rangers wouldnt (most likely) go through all the trouble to get up there if they saw a chance to survive on ground.

[Cris]

I like ladders, it makes the game more fun.

I never used them but it made the game more real and encouraged team play. That said it was a pain for catapulting people or when people would destroy them to make themselves unreachable.

To the OP, if someone got somewhere that seems impossible, blame that map not the person.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Also: What happened to 'buy a shield'?

It stayed the shitty argument it always was.

[Bronto]

To fix this problem we should just be able to take ladders.....oh wait......we lost that privilege because of a few douchebags making ladder towers. Nice work, douchebags.

[Adamar]

Put more static ladders in maybe, but keep deplayable ladders in the trash where they belong!

[karasu]

Buff mages, they're so gimped as it is. 

[Carthan]

Despite the fact that ladders got removed, archers and other ranged scum still find a way to get on (inaccessible) places such as house roofs.
it gives them unfair advantage.

Simple, BRING BACK OUR LADDERS!

[Legs]

I'm not an archer but I've always loved climbing up onto rooftops. It's really fun to jump down on unsuspecting players and ambush them. Even before ladders were removed, it was just nice to be able to find a (relatively) safe place to observe the battle and come up with a plan instead of recklessly charging in.

Personally I've never had a problem with roof-camping archers, even though I never use a shield. It's usually pretty easy to just take cover and find someone else to fight, or work with a shielder to storm up after them.

It's actually really disappointing when I see that a map's roofs have been blocked off by invisible walls because it just serves to restrict gameplay. I'm not necessarily proposing that the devs bring back ladders, but I don't see why we can't have nice little spots that you can make it to with some tricky jumping or stationary ladders that anyone can deploy.

[Thomek]

Doesn't have to be either LADDERS or NO ROOFS.

Should be very few roofs left climbable by normal jumping. 2 abooze methods here could be using horses or siege shields to get up, and this should perhaps be beaten down upon.

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[Froto_the_Loc]

2h playing their strengths = Skill
Archers playing their strengths = bundle of sticksry?

Now does that really make sense?
Stop complaining about archers for gods sake.

[Dionysus]

For an uninitiated player such as myself, examples or evidence would be appreciated. I have yet to deal with an archer on an inaccessible rooftop, so I find this difficult to empathize with.

If a player accesses a rooftop through exploits, then it should of course be discouraged by an admin. If that player just did a simple series of jumps, then it's fair game to me.

[Jacko]

Rules are very clear:

Glitching is allowed, being an asshat isn't
OK: hiding (e.g. in the hay)
NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)
NOT OK: using a siege shield to reach a roof that can't be reached normally
NOT OK: camping unreachable places
NOT OK: exploiting invisible barriers
NOT OK: going out of map bounds (if you can see unfinished parts of the map, then you should not be there)
NOT OK: ladderpulting

http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

Roofs that you can access by jumping are 'fine' (some intended, some are not). Jumping up with a horse then placing a siege shield to go even further is just asshattery.

[Molly]

[...](including at least two that cav can get up on easily)[...]

Ponies should never ever have access to any roof. One of the most stupid things in the whole game.