HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]

[Molly]

Ah, didn't know about different page counts. Good to know

And I don't even know if I will continue reading them cuz it's totally not my genre. It merely happened by accident cuz I like the show and happened to have the books around.
I am mostly curious about Arya tbh.

[Gnjus]

So many people talking about their porno fantasies in this thread and yet - none mentioned the lovely Frey daughters, I'd like to see some erotic scenes involving all of them.......

[Vibe]

dear lord behave yourself gnjus

[Gnjus]

dear lord behave yourself gnjus

I find lady Derpina very sexy:

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[Franke]

Robert's smithing bastard not even being shipped off.

Not putting this into a spoiler as it is just different in the books: In the books Gendry never gets shipped to Dragonstone, in the books this part falls to another Robert bastard (I think his name is Eric Storm or so, he has been mentioned somewhere above)

Leaving the first books out will give you a hard time if you really want to follow the books' plot in the future.

[CrazyCracka420]

Last scene was so much better in the books. Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once 

Yeah I wish Strong Belwas was in the tv show...he doesn't do a whole lot in the books (he is of critical importance later in the books, but they can just use someone else for what he does in the books, as they did here).  I always like Belwas, and would have loved to see him fight the Mereen champion, if for nothing else than shitting on his corpse after killing him. 

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The necklace Dontos gives to Sansa was the poison. When Petyr smashes it on the boat you're supposed to notice it wasn't jewels it was made of...and it's not explicitly stated in the books either but the theory is that it is the Queen of Thorns (bitchy old Tyrell lady) who poisons him. In the show it is hinted at by the shot of Tyrion picking up the goblet with her smiling pleasantly framed in the background. And the way she is touching and picking at Sansa's clothing right before. In the books it is a "jewelled" hairnet that Dontos gives Sansa and the old lady says something like "oh the wind has been at your hair, child" and starts rearanging the hairnet.

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I always thought it was more than hinted it...it seemed obvious to me from reading the book who poisoned joffrey. 

[Miwiw]

Watched ep3 today, seeing that duel was really awful. That's like leaving out the first battle in the first book (what they actually did - but then during that time they just started to become popular). 

The "rape" scene wasn't that awful tho, nothing great. Same for the "orgy" with Oberyn. Was fine for a series, not too much though I don't really like gay sex scenes. =D

[Molly]

[...] I don't really like gay sex [...]

I are disappoint.

[Xant]

Watched ep3 today, seeing that duel was really awful.

Awful how? Because they cut Belwas the Useless? Having Daario do it makes more sense, since Daario is a much more important a character later on, so it makes sense for him to be involved in more things earlier on instead of suddenly becoming important.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

I thought that duel was not so great because it was too much of a Terentino style super cool killing without any tension, I mildly smiled at it and thats it.

I don't get why people either condemn the masses of 'unnecessary' characters in the books or are mad because this or that minor character is merged with more important ones in the series. It is one of the books strengths or more neutral characteristics that you have a couple of people (mostly POV-characters) that have a near 100% dramaturgic live but also the ones like Belwas which only have 1 or 2 moments in their lives that are really interesting for the story and for us to read about. The books are full of normal people, which makes it tedious to read sometimes but also makes the world and story immersive and realistic. And it is clear that they don't have time for that in the TV series.

[Oberyn]

I always thought it was more than hinted it...it seemed obvious to me from reading the book who poisoned joffrey.

Yeah it is not explicitly stated in the books, but it's pretty obvious. Petyr almost says it directly to Sansa, who figures it out almost immediately. You'd be surprised how many people don't pick up on it. In the show it was merely hinted at, though. Much less obvious if you haven't read the books prior.

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[Miwiw]

I are disappoint.

Don't cut my quotes in half. I never said that!

@Xant... No, no. Belwas is as import as him. Plus the "duel" being won by just throwing a dagger is quite stupid. Scene in the book was far better and they could have easily made that as well.

[Xant]

I thought that duel was not so great because it was too much of a Terentino style super cool killing without any tension, I mildly smiled at it and thats it.

I don't get why people either condemn the masses of 'unnecessary' characters in the books or are mad because this or that minor character is merged with more important ones in the series. It is one of the books strengths or more neutral characteristics that you have a couple of people (mostly POV-characters) that have a near 100% dramaturgic live but also the ones like Belwas which only have 1 or 2 moments in their lives that are really interesting for the story and for us to read about. The books are full of normal people, which makes it tedious to read sometimes but also makes the world and story immersive and realistic. And it is clear that they don't have time for that in the TV series.

Belwas is great in the books, but it works better for a TV series to cut down on the unnecessary side characters a bit.

And Oberyn, it's hinted at, yeah, but it's visually confirmed in the show. Look at Sansa's necklace before and after the Thorny Queen fondles her hair. And then Petyr confirms he had it made.

Don't cut my quotes in half. I never said that!

@Xant... No, no. Belwas is as import as him. Plus the "duel" being won by just throwing a dagger is quite stupid. Scene in the book was far better and they could have easily made that as well.

Really? What does Belwas do in the books that's important?

[Miwiw]

You did read the books did you? So you know yourself. Not like I'm into doing a typical Xant discussion. Imo he's an important side character.