HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]

[Segd]

No, if you want to see sex scenes, watch porn. That's what it's for after all... If watching some series, I want to see battles, blood, funny jokes, nice stories, lovely girls and other weird and entertaining stuff. Maybe tits and butts sometimes but more isnt really needed.

It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.

[BASNAK]

It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.

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[Oberyn]

We know you're a good-looking youngster of Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian origins but please - stop this madness and ask for a rename.

I have zero maghreb ancestry, not sure where you got that idea. One of my great grandpa's was from around Tver, fled the bolsheviks and ended up fighting for France in WW1, and my mother's side is "white" brasilian so a mix of a bunch of different things. On my father's side it's mostly all french from around the Tours and Limousin region who have been there for generations, appart from that dash of slavic.

[Gnjus]

I have zero maghreb ancestry, not sure where you got that idea. One of my great grandpa's was from around Tver, fled the bolsheviks and ended up fighting for France in WW1, and my mother's side is "white" brasilian so a mix of a bunch of different things. On my father's side it's mostly all french from around the Tours and Limousin region who have been there for generations, appart from that dash of slavic.

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[Boerenlater]

I dont even know who Mord is.

[Gnjus]

I dont even know who Mord is.

He is a Boringlater of George Martin's world:

Mord is a large man, slow-witted brute, he has small, dark eyes, rotting brown teeth. He has a large belly and thick, stubby-fingered hands.

[Boerenlater]

He is a Boringlater of George Martin's world:

[Franke]

Why would Olenna Tyrell want to assasinate Joffrey before he and Margery shared their wedding bed? The case has not been solved in the books yet so I think I'm free to make a wild guess here. My money goes on Varys, my picture of him is that of a (admittedly sneaky) guy who wants the best for the realm in contrast to for example Littlefinger who is a sneaky guy who wants the best for himself.

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I think I remember from the book there was something with a piece of apple pie with cream being placed in front of Tyrion and Joffrey eating a bit of it right before drinking the wine, but maybe I'm just plain wrong here. Guess I have to re-read it.

[Moncho]

About Joffrey

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The main theory in the books is that it was the Tyrells (the Queen of Thorns) in conjunction with Littlefinger. Margaery's wedding is not an issue since she will (did) get married to Tommen, since the Lannisters still need the alliance with the Tyrells. And she wants to prevent her granddaughter from the stories running around and that Sansa told her about Joffrey. So the QoT loses nothing, and gains an easier to manipulate king (Tommen) that will abide by his wife's orders much more easily, gives her family more time to position themselves, and advance her family in the GoT. Littlefinger's motives I do not remember, but at least this way she has a way to take Sansa away for his own purposes (transferring his lust (love?) for Catelyn to her daughter) without it being known (remember he had already left kings landing so he is not there and noone will relate them), giving her a good place and coaching her to become the piece in the game of thrones that he will want her to play. After all, with the Stark boys dead, she is the heir to Winterfell and the Kingdom of the North). Plus he may have other motives

About the poison, it was in the fake gems in the headband Sansa wore, what I don't remember is, does it get put somehow from there into the wine, or how else does it get to Joffrey?

About Oberyn (guy in the books, not member of this forum) yeah, I am quite annoyed at the way he is being portrayed, he has been made into a much more sexual dude in the show than I recall in the books. And I think they went way over the top with the last orgies. Ok, we get it, he is bi, he likes to fuck a lot, but there is no need to put a scene in every episode, honestly I did not like this one at all, extremely pointless imo, all they said was already clear from the previous ones.

[Franke]

About Joffrey

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Good point; I completely forgot that they use the chaos during Joffrey's death to bring Sansa out, what is a strong hint for Littlefinger to be at least involved. As I said, I have to re-read this part as it seems I completely missed the hint toward's the Tyrells.

About Oberyn (guy in the books, not member of this forum) yeah, I am quite annoyed at the way he is being portrayed, he has been made into a much more sexual dude in the show than I recall in the books. And I think they went way over the top with the last orgies. Ok, we get it, he is bi, he likes to fuck a lot, but there is no need to put a scene in every episode, honestly I did not like this one at all, extremely pointless imo, all they said was already clear from the previous ones.

Exactly what I feel. Oberyn is portrayed as a great warrior (with a certain affinity towards the use of poisened blades) who loves women (and men?) but his depiction in the show is rather one-sided. A waste as I think they made a really good choice with this actor compared to others *looking towards Daario Naharis* 

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The character will not develop any further in the other direction as he should not have much time for this iirc

[Xant]

The TV series confirmed it was the Tyrells and Littlefinger.

[Banok]

its kind of sad people posting book 5 stuff even in spoilers because you know people are just going to read them anyway and ruin the big surprises for themselves.

I'm quite proud of my behaviour not spoiling anything to my friends who would probably not show me the same courtesy.

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Dragons are not coming to westeros any time fucking soon. stop holding your breath they are just a big fucking tease.

because the series is leading people on really bad, although the books are not much better. but I mean they deliberately put that part of brans vision in episode 3 into the season 4 trailer to mislead people.

watchers probably think it will happen this series, but as a reader I don't even think it will come close in book 6 (which is what season 8/9?), maybe even never.

[Xant]

Really? How is the series leading people on? I for one am not even expecting the dragons to come any time soon. Although since the series moves along much faster than the books, the dragons will come, or won't, much quicker than in the books.

[Molly]

As a viewer, a newly one I might add, I personally don't expect any dragons soon. My impression is that those zombies behind the wall will be a focus, rather than the dragons. Why else is she cleaning out one city after the other in a rather slow pace. Even considering that they point out every 5 minutes that those dragons grow fast.

By the way, I noticed that we actually have the books in my house
I skipped 1-5 and now started with 6 which seems to be a bit earlier than show is right now. Dany being at Yunakai'i right now where I am reading and Robert's smithing bastard not even being shipped off. It seems they changed the order a bit in the show compared to the books...

But... I have some problems with all the names in the book. So many more characters and their names...

[Freland]

You probably have the german version of the books which splitted each english book into two separate ones to earn more cash.
At the moment the show handled about 75% of the third (english) book but they already showed some of book 4 and 5 (for example all the Theon and Ramsay stuff).
If you want to start reading the books I strongly recommend starting with the first book as the show omitted some super important chapters like Ned Stark's fever dream.