HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]

[Xant]

I feel this is relevant.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

This is exactly how I feel about acquiring Game of Thrones:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

HBO, I'm trying to give you my money, why won't you take it? 

I refuse to wait until the season's over to buy it on DVD, I refuse to wait years for it to come out on Netflix.  I will never again have a cable or satellite tv program subscription.  If you want to offer a subscription to your content online, I'll gladly hand over money to watch.  I'll gladly pay per episode to watch.

In germany it's even worse. There is simply no other way than to wait 1 year for the dvd or pirate it if you want to watch it in original language.

[Torben]

fuck,  just pirat it and buy a few more set of books so the author gets paid.  use the book as gifts to nonbelievers,  who themselves at some point will spend money on the series,  helping the author even more.

in the end,  pirating is the only rational and ethically viable option.

[Overdriven]

I pirate it usually and then buy the blu-rays later. Though I watch it with my Dad sometimes and it comes through on Sky Movies so all good there.

[Adamar]

Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she

Because Giving birth to demons and burning people alive is a good thing.

[Overdriven]

Yeah Melisandre knows men. That's about as innovative as she gets. It wouldn't surprise me if something comes back to bite her in the arse. Seems to me she just likes control and is using Stannis for whatever reason.

[Moncho]

Because Giving birth to demons and burning people alive is a good thing.

I did not say she was "good", noone is in the entire series, they all follow their own (selfish) interests, using methods like assassination, betrayal and double crossing at every step, not fulfilling agreements and so on.
An honorable man is a dead man, as was clearly shown in the first season. It is a world of vipers, self interest and power.
After all, "when you play a game of thrones, you win or you die", and nobody wants to die.

I said that I like what she is trying to accomplish, which right now I am not sure if they have mentioned it already in the series, have not watched the finale yet.

It is not only the knowledge of men (which is a big tool as it is a game of men and women), she also has the fire visions and other tools from the Red God, which might help her. And of course, like any other character, she will probably have big trouble with a few things.

[Oberyn]

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Pfff, Melisandre is a fucking psycho bitch who completely misreads the visions the fire shows her. Either that or she knows very well and is playing a deeper and even more sinister game. The whole "prince that was promised" prophecy does not indicate Stannis at all, and she knows that, but still tries to convince him otherwise. Aemon Targaryen (the old blind maester guy on the wall) immediately picks up on that, then on the wrongness of "lightbringer", the so-called magic sword which is nothing more than an illusion, light without heat.
And really, what the fuck do we know about the Red God? According to his priests he's obviously benevolent, despite being nothing more than an elemental natural power with no conscience or will. Does this God ever "speak" to anyone, beyond visions that may just as well be random as "sent"? And remember what Dondarrion tells Thoros? "Fire consumes. It consumes, and when it is done there is nothing left. Nothing.". He doesn't seem very thankful for the Red God's "gifts".

[Xant]

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Pfff, Melisandre is a fucking psycho bitch who completely misreads the visions the fire shows her. Either that or she knows very well and is playing a deeper and even more sinister game. The whole "prince that was promised" prophecy does not indicate Stannis at all, and she knows that, but still tries to convince him otherwise. Aemon Targaryen (the old blind maester guy on the wall) immediately picks up on that, then on the wrongness of "lightbringer", the so-called magic sword which is nothing more than an illusion, light without heat.
And really, what the fuck do we know about the Red God? According to his priests he's obviously benevolent, despite being nothing more than an elemental natural power with no conscience or will. Does this God ever "speak" to anyone, beyond visions that may just as well be random as "sent"? And remember what Dondarrion tells Thoros? "Fire consumes. It consumes, and when it is done there is nothing left. Nothing.". He doesn't seem very thankful for the Red God's "gifts".

Yes, I don't think she misreads them so much as purposefully misguides certain people.

[Kafein]

Arguing one shouldn't pirate because some of the money you'd otherwise pay may end up in the hands of the author is like arguing you should buy designer clothes to save the poor Bangladeshi.

If you actually want to reward the author, pirate the show and donate to him.

[Armpit_Sweat]

Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend.

If you havn't already done so - feast your eyes on "Tudors" and "Borgias"!

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Holliday Grainger as Lucrezia Borgia

Mmm-mm-m... Not since Scarlett Johansson in "Girl with a Pearl Earring", have i witnessed a beauty so innocent and pure! Watch Borgias damn it! And forget all this throne-nonsense

[Overdriven]

Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend.

If you havn't already done so - feast your eyes on "Tudors" and "Borgias"!

Borgias is a brilliant show (Jeremy Irons is one of my favourite actors). Tudors I was never a major fan of but my family like it.

I shall choose to ignore the first part of what you wrote.

[Xant]

Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend.

what

[CrazyCracka420]

I've watched all of the Tudors and very much enjoyed it.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

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Pfff, Melisandre is a fucking psycho bitch who completely misreads the visions the fire shows her. Either that or she knows very well and is playing a deeper and even more sinister game. The whole "prince that was promised" prophecy does not indicate Stannis at all, and she knows that, but still tries to convince him otherwise. Aemon Targaryen (the old blind maester guy on the wall) immediately picks up on that, then on the wrongness of "lightbringer", the so-called magic sword which is nothing more than an illusion, light without heat.
And really, what the fuck do we know about the Red God? According to his priests he's obviously benevolent, despite being nothing more than an elemental natural power with no conscience or will. Does this God ever "speak" to anyone, beyond visions that may just as well be random as "sent"? And remember what Dondarrion tells Thoros? "Fire consumes. It consumes, and when it is done there is nothing left. Nothing.". He doesn't seem very thankful for the Red God's "gifts".

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what I remember from her chapter (was it several?) from ADWD she doesn't know shit, is full of doubts about what the visions mean but present them like facts to others.