HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]

[Angantyr]

At the Siege of Storm's End Stannis' main contribution was being dutiful and persistent, while the garrison starved.

[Xant]

Arguing about the fictional merits of their strategic/tactical skills is kind of strange when GRRM mostly just decides who wins and who loses based on what he wants to happen in the story, without it necessarily making much sense.

GRRM doesn't really write Intelligent Characters. http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/writing

[Angantyr]

Yes, he just uses their described merits to build character themes.

[Son Of Odin]

Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.

Uhh you better check who won Robert's war for him. Robert's rebellion would have ended in failure without Stannis the Mannis!

[Overdriven]

I mean he is writing a story, not playing DnD.

He's not going to bring 2 characters into a field and roll dice based on their 'commander' score to see who wins.

As a story-writer ofc he knows who's going to win based on what he wants to happen storywise. But if he isn't a good enough writer to make the circumstances convincing, that's where it breaks down. I only read the first couple of books so don't know how good he is at writing battles, but in the show battles are usually a clusterfuck.

He doesn't really write the battles in. It's one of the more stand out things in the early books certainly. For instance because Rob isn't a PoV character you only hear about his victories second hand. I think the first real one he writes is the defense of the wall. Maybe the defense of kings landing, though I can't remember if that was fully in the books. Otherwise it's more glimpses of what's happened with the odd chapter here and there.

He's certainly not big on writing battles like a lot of authors.

[Son Of Odin]

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Also Kit apparently punched him in the face for realz while filming the most satisfying scene ever.

[Tagora]

Also Kit apparently punched him in the face for realz while filming the most satisfying scene ever.

sauce?

[Son Of Odin]

sauce?

Around at 3:54 mark he mentions it.

[Moncho]

The Battle of the Blackwater has POVs from Davos from the ships, Sansa in the castle with the women, and Tyrion in the middle of things until he gets knocked out iirc.
As such things like the chain and the wildfire are described, some of the land battle from Tyrion including the sallying, and noises from inside as well as the Hound breaking from Sansa.

[vipere]

Ned Stark was here !

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[LordBerenger]

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[Asheram]

Ned Stark was here !

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So we finally find out who the headless horseman is, its Ned Stark! The geezer in the fence is a deserter from the wall.
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[Bittersteel]

Curious question, do any of you think there is a possibility for another company to make a GoT series? I know it may sound stupid but just wondering, cause I'd really like to see what could of been without DnD. The idea won't be original, but I'm sure a lot would still watch it.

[Jona]

Well it's always a possibility, if and when HBO loses the rights to GoT. I wouldn't deem it impossible to have a GoT "reboot" in a decade or so. I can't really imagine anything else happening sooner though. If anything they'd make some spin-off series and keep milking the franchise as long as they can, most likely keeping the rights to themselves for the foreseeable future.

[Bittersteel]

Well it's always a possibility, if and when HBO loses the rights to GoT. I wouldn't deem it impossible to have a GoT "reboot" in a decade or so. I can't really imagine anything else happening sooner though. If anything they'd make some spin-off series and keep milking the franchise as long as they can, most likely keeping the rights to themselves for the foreseeable future.

:DD Thanks fam<33 Can sleep well tonight with a gleeming hope that one day the universe may reach its full potential.