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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1935 on: June 08, 2015, 10:17:22 pm »
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1936 on: June 08, 2015, 10:33:11 pm »
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God it was awful. What were they even trying to convey with Jorah flailing about on the floor, dropping his weapon on like four occasions? That he is a useless sack of shit who wins through sheer luck or something? It would be bad enough if only the choreography was terrible, but none of the combat scenarios make any sense, especially this last one. It is all just way too comically retarded for me to take seriously. It is as if they do not even bother to write anything for combat scenarios, the script probably just says "insert 5 minute combat scene here".

I could name about 20 things which made zero sense on my first viewing. I don't understand that if I can pick out the inconsistent fake crap so easily, how come no one on the entire production team said like "hey, isn't it weird that they are throwing spears now and not before". Honestly this entire scene went way too far on the retard scale, I hope they get a load of shit for it. How can a series do so many things so right, and then do combat scenes so incredibly poorly. The quality difference is ridiculous. A series like Rome is probably on the same budget scale, and combat was never a big thorn in my eye there, let alone continuously. They don't even do anything with cameras to make it look better, they just show the lack of choreography in all its lame-ass glory.

And indeed, all the waterdancer guy shows is that combat could actually be good. Died a fucking lame-ass death too, getting stabbed in the back by the guy he magically forgot about. And the audience was cheering for the kill as well.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1937 on: June 08, 2015, 10:35:54 pm »
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But hey, apparently all of this takes months to achieve to "professionals" doing their job:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-star-fight-scene-800237

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1938 on: June 08, 2015, 10:53:57 pm »
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Yeah, the choreography is complete crap sometimes. Jorah's roll attack looked like something I would do in ocarina of time. The whole gladiator fight sequence was just lawl.

However, the throwing spears made plenty of sense to me. They only brought down (boxes? bags?) of javelin things towards the end of the fight, and they probably brought them through the doors when hundreds of them flooded the arena. Which means they only really had the boxes opened by the time drogon got there. Because, you know.... BOXES OF SPEARS might be a little harder to hide in the stands than a golden mask.


Also, the CGI was just.... ouch for a good 10 minutes. The whole arena and dragon riding scene just looked oh so fake.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1939 on: June 08, 2015, 11:10:28 pm »
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How 2 make the last episode even sadder

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1940 on: June 08, 2015, 11:27:11 pm »
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Im typically pretty excited about GoT Season Finales, I don't know if I am this time.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1941 on: June 09, 2015, 12:44:33 am »
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God it was awful. What were they even trying to convey with Jorah flailing about on the floor, dropping his weapon on like four occasions? That he is a useless sack of shit who wins through sheer luck or something? It would be bad enough if only the choreography was terrible, but none of the combat scenarios make any sense, especially this last one. It is all just way too comically retarded for me to take seriously. It is as if they do not even bother to write anything for combat scenarios, the script probably just says "insert 5 minute combat scene here".

I could name about 20 things which made zero sense on my first viewing. I don't understand that if I can pick out the inconsistent fake crap so easily, how come no one on the entire production team said like "hey, isn't it weird that they are throwing spears now and not before". Honestly this entire scene went way too far on the retard scale, I hope they get a load of shit for it. How can a series do so many things so right, and then do combat scenes so incredibly poorly. The quality difference is ridiculous. A series like Rome is probably on the same budget scale, and combat was never a big thorn in my eye there, let alone continuously. They don't even do anything with cameras to make it look better, they just show the lack of choreography in all its lame-ass glory.

And indeed, all the waterdancer guy shows is that combat could actually be good. Died a fucking lame-ass death too, getting stabbed in the back by the guy he magically forgot about. And the audience was cheering for the kill as well.
Maybe they picked up spears from dead unsullied or from some weapon racks in the combat area?
Otherwise I agree with you.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1942 on: June 09, 2015, 12:47:38 am »
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How 2 make the last episode even sadder

Laughed at this scene, shed tears of joy when dragon appeared at the end.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1943 on: June 09, 2015, 12:47:59 am »
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Just watched episode 4.

Not sure how elite hoplite infantry loses to a bunch of guys with daggers. Close quarters? That hallway was just wide enough for the Unsullied to turtle up. If anything, it should have given them an advantage given their lack of numbers. They have fucking long pointed sticks. No way for those SoH to get through without first losing the first engagement. Numbers? There were about double the number of daggermen. Ambush? That was a stand up fight. It was no sicarii-style stab-and-run.

A sorry excuse for a theatric finish. Fuck, this is almost begging us to form our own tv production company to prove we can do better.

Guys, we need to get together with a bunch of GoPros.




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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1944 on: June 09, 2015, 12:48:35 am »
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1945 on: June 09, 2015, 01:00:43 am »
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Was I the only one thinking "Wow, Tyrion, Jorah and co. are all totally boned right now" after Dany just peaced out on her dragon? I mean, sure, those golden mask dudes were gunning for her, but why would they suddenly stop fighting after the dragon leaves when they outnumbered their enemies 10:1? If they don't kill those guys now they're gonna have to deal with them during their next attempt on Dany's life.

Personally I kind of like the intent behind the fight scene. This was Jorah against the best of the best from all the fighting pits in the surrounding area. No one really said he's the most badass knight around, he just so happens to be the only knight around. He isn't the Mountain or anything, he's isn't necessarily expected to be the best fighter. And the fight showed that... he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by the water dancer, and only survived cuz that other dude decided to stab the waterdancer before he finished off Jorah, cuz you know, that totally makes sense. :rolleyes: Could have easily let the waterdancer stab Jorah, then stabbed him only an instant later for an insta-win. Maybe it's some sort of honor thing, who knows. But yeah, that said, 90% of that choreography was honestly worse than the sand snakes scene. That fucking roll though.  :lol:
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1946 on: June 09, 2015, 01:37:43 am »
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jorah kinda was the man last episode and this time he fought like a bitch.
the fuck is wrong with some of dem fighting scenes goddamit.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1947 on: June 09, 2015, 02:19:50 am »
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1948 on: June 09, 2015, 03:10:10 am »
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Stannis is a psycho but anyone who wants to be the King of Westeros is pretty much fucked in the head anyway.  Besides if sacrificing his fucked up cornflake face brat will save his army and the seven kingdoms then you couldn't stop me from pouring a can of petrol over her. I hope Ramsay gets stabbed through the face by that vagina wraith of melissandre and the boltons all get flayed.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1949 on: June 09, 2015, 03:32:29 am »
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Was I the only one thinking "Wow, Tyrion, Jorah and co. are all totally boned right now" after Dany just peaced out on her dragon? I mean, sure, those golden mask dudes were gunning for her, but why would they suddenly stop fighting after the dragon leaves when they outnumbered their enemies 10:1? If they don't kill those guys now they're gonna have to deal with them during their next attempt on Dany's life.

Personally I kind of like the intent behind the fight scene. This was Jorah against the best of the best from all the fighting pits in the surrounding area. No one really said he's the most badass knight around, he just so happens to be the only knight around. He isn't the Mountain or anything, he's isn't necessarily expected to be the best fighter. And the fight showed that... he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by the water dancer, and only survived cuz that other dude decided to stab the waterdancer before he finished off Jorah, cuz you know, that totally makes sense. :rolleyes: Could have easily let the waterdancer stab Jorah, then stabbed him only an instant later for an insta-win. Maybe it's some sort of honor thing, who knows. But yeah, that said, 90% of that choreography was honestly worse than the sand snakes scene. That fucking roll though.  :lol:

Well drogon burned or scattered most of the harpy forces, and there was still at least 20-30 SUPPOSED badasses in a circle. Except the unsullied really are not turning out to be so badass ever since Dany set them free. And I'm still gonna have to say the choreography of the sand snakes battle was way worse, but Daznaq's pit was pretty bad... And yeah, that roll was a joke, I didn't really get that  :lol:

Oh yeah, but then there was that scene in the lands-of-always-winter that made NO sense.... So Jon and the gang sailed from hardhome (which is on the Eastern shore of the far north, a bit north of Eastwatch-by-the-sea), and landed in Eastwatch-by-the-sea OBVIOUSLY, unless they just sailed a few miles away from the battle and ran ashore.... So there is NO reason whatsoever for them to be passing through the wall in the castle black entrance. I don't know if that makes any sense to you guys who haven't seen the Westeros maps, but that bugged me to no end. Like honestly, where is the fleet then? Somewhere around hardhome? Did stannis' dudes just kick Jon and the wildlings off and make them walk to castle black? wtf? The episode was a disaster.  :rolleyes:
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