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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1740 on: June 17, 2014, 12:26:02 am »
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Stannis and Melisandre are friends with benefits

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1741 on: June 17, 2014, 12:54:27 am »
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Hypothetically, if Stanis ever gets to the Iron Throne, it would be civil war and destruction on a scale larger than anything that's happened in the series so far. His whole Rhllor's chosen delusion? He literally destroys a sept and ritually sacrifices those who refuse to embrace his "new" religion by burning them alive. Or he stands there brooding and constipated while Melisandre does it, same difference. It would be that X100k or something, all throughout the seven kingdoms, as Melisandre leads massive purges. The bigass church thing in King's Landing would be converted to a Rhllor temple as soon as Melisandre fucking stepped foot in there, and it would just spread out from there.
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Honestly I think the only part of Stannis that's interesting is Davos. In the books you mostly see Stannis through his eyes. Davos especially knows how fucked up Melisandre and her "tools" are, but he's so loyal to Stannis he can't help but try to mitigate her influence on him through his own advice.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1743 on: June 17, 2014, 03:38:56 am »
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Problem with that logic Lolberyn is that in the church of Lord of Light miracles come true which other religions cannot do. They can prove via their priests that that religion is capable of predicting things and reviving people etc..

A.ka more people would support something they can believe with their own eyes.



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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1744 on: June 17, 2014, 06:11:31 am »
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Hypothetically, if Stanis ever gets to the Iron Throne, it would be civil war and destruction on a scale larger than anything that's happened in the series so far. His whole Rhllor's chosen delusion? He literally destroys a sept and ritually sacrifices those who refuse to embrace his "new" religion by burning them alive. Or he stands there brooding and constipated while Melisandre does it, same difference. It would be that X100k or something, all throughout the seven kingdoms, as Melisandre leads massive purges. The bigass church thing in King's Landing would be converted to a Rhllor temple as soon as Melisandre fucking stepped foot in there, and it would just spread out from there.
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Honestly I think the only part of Stannis that's interesting is Davos. In the books you mostly see Stannis through his eyes. Davos especially knows how fucked up Melisandre and her "tools" are, but he's so loyal to Stannis he can't help but try to mitigate her influence on him through his own advice.

Sounds like a good sequel to me
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1745 on: June 17, 2014, 09:49:27 am »
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Saw it this morning at my Uni...

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The text next to him says "Jon Snow after he got his Bachelor exam."

I lol'd :D
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1746 on: June 17, 2014, 10:42:46 am »
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Saw it this morning at my Uni...

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The text next to him says "Jon Snow after he got his Bachelor exam."

I lol'd :D

If i were gay like everyone else here i'd totally go gay for Jon Snow or Robb Stark.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1747 on: June 17, 2014, 10:45:39 am »
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Am i the only one who think that Stannis will hire the wildlings with the support of the bank and then, push to the south in order to claim his legit right ?

EDIT: i didn't read the books.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1748 on: June 17, 2014, 10:58:12 am »
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It's interesting how no one (except Mance and his wildlings) is aware of the threat from the North and they don't even bother to listen to anyone, they really think that wildlings are bored and suddenly hitting the wall for no apparent reason other than to kill a few crows and some random villagers around. It would be logical if Stannis was to listen what Mance Rayder has to say about his uniting all tribes, gathering 100 000 men, giants, mammoths, etc and hitting the wall. If you have to kill the man at least listen to his reasons, since you already have him captured. That's what a wise leader would do, while a stupid one would just hack them all where they stand. Guess which kind would Stannis be if wasn't for Davos & Jon Snow ?

Tbh there are some details missing from the show that shouldn't be missing, for example: if the guy who "recruits" (or "collects", to be more accurate) men for the wall gets killed along the way shouldn't someone fucking notice it ? Shouldn't there be a new person in charge with it and shouldn't the commander (at least) of the Night's Watch be asking some questions about that and some other things ? People who have a purpose in this realm keep dying and none even bothers to ask about them, we should get to see those scenes, just so it all makes sense, its not like they would take a whole episode of time........
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1749 on: June 17, 2014, 11:20:40 am »
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Children's tales.
The wall is in crap state atm, the Night's Watch is nothing. Also they have begged forever for men, and nothing has ever happened, so some people may believe its the boy who cried wolf (the fable) all over again.
The Southron lords (and even some of the Northern ones) do not believe in legends and undead, that is all a load of bullcrap that has not happened for thousands of years, so they dismiss it as old folk's tales and superstition. So they play their Game of Thrones without realising that it is all for nought if the Others (White Walkers in the series) come and go over the wall. Even the Northern lords believe the Wall to be there to keep the wildlings out, and the tales of the Others have been banished to Old Nan's stories and other unreliable sources. Magic has been getting weaker and so the danger is dismissed. Further their armies went South to war, and are scattered and weak.
Also some lords may even believe that the Wildlings are only attacking because of the Civil War that led the armies of the North south, and the Southron kings have enough on their plate already (the Riverlands on fire, the Lannisters and Tyrells trying to consolidate their gains and plotting from King's Landing, the North in disarray, etc). It's a huge setup that is happening that is making Westeros ripe for invasion. The only armies still strong are the Dornish, those of the Vale, and the Ironborn fleet, the rest is a shadow of what it was.
About the recruiter, the travel times are large, and they are worried about that. He may be somewhere along the path, or have stopped at some halls in hopes of getting more recruits, or tons of other things may have hindered him, news don't travel like in modern times, and the Wall is very isolated. On top of that Lord Commander Mormont was killed, and there is no new Commander yet, which leads to all these issues becoming even bigger. They have Benjen Stark's disaparition, the attack of the Wildlings, the failure of the Great Ranging, etc all far more pressing than where the recruiter is.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1750 on: June 17, 2014, 11:25:29 am »
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It's interesting how no one (except Mance and his wildlings) is aware of the threat from the North and they don't even bother to listen to anyone, they really think that wildlings are bored and suddenly hitting the wall for no apparent reason other than to kill a few crows and some random villagers around. It would be logical if Stannis was to listen what Mance Rayder has to say about his uniting all tribes, gathering 100 000 men, giants, mammoths, etc and hitting the wall. If you have to kill the man at least listen to his reasons, since you already have him captured. That's what a wise leader would do, while a stupid one would just hack them all where they stand. Guess which kind would Stannis be if wasn't for Davos & Jon Snow ?

Tbh there are some details missing from the show that shouldn't be missing, for example: if the guy who "recruits" (or "collects", to be more accurate) men for the wall gets killed along the way shouldn't someone fucking notice it ? Shouldn't there be a new person in charge with it and shouldn't the commander (at least) of the Night's Watch be asking some questions about that and some other things ? People who have a purpose in this realm keep dying and none even bothers to ask about them, we should get to see those scenes, just so it all makes sense, its not like they would take a whole episode of time........

People outside the wall doesn't give a fuck about it. They only care about politics and drama over who's keeping the Iron Throne and random crap. Except for King Stannis and Nights Watch who's protecting the realm.

And why would they accept 100k wild barbarians with some of them cannibals into a civilized land?
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1751 on: June 17, 2014, 11:31:33 am »
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King Stannis does not give a fucking crap about the wall, he is just using it because of a vision Melissandre had and misinterpreted it, since he had lost at the South, he did the only thing he could that was run away. He is not honorable, he just does not have another option.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1752 on: June 17, 2014, 11:42:21 am »
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About the recruiter, the travel times are large, and they are worried about that. He may be somewhere along the path, or have stopped at some halls in hopes of getting more recruits, or tons of other things may have hindered him, news don't travel like in modern times, and the Wall is very isolated.


I know but the guy was capable of shaving a spider's arse if he wanted to........how many folks in the Seven Kingdoms could do that ?  :P

Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1753 on: June 17, 2014, 12:07:45 pm »
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King Stannis does not give a fucking crap about the wall, he is just using it because of a vision Melissandre had and misinterpreted it, since he had lost at the South, he did the only thing he could that was run away. He is not honorable, he just does not have another option.

He's a king and PROTECTOR OF THE REALM. He's doing it to gather land and support from ex-Stark followers and to set up a new base of operations. AND UNLIKE THESE KINGS LANDING WHORES AND PRICKS HE'S ACTUALLY SERVING THE REALM...who would've thought that.

Unlike Robert who just got fat and fucked whores, Renly who prefered to take it up the ass and promote a gay kingdom, Joffrey who would continue to pretend Westeros was just his playground to abuse or Robb Stark who'd lead it like the naive kid he was.


There's a fkin reason why Ned Stark trusted Stannis with the info of the bastards before he died and supported his claim to the throne besides the fact that it was his right. Stannis and Ned Stark are men bound by honor, courage and loyalty. Stannis is like Ned was of an old breed. He's a perfect fit.

In Stannis case, loyalty to Westeros.

You'd think a dumb blonde Targaryen bitch who fucks around with her boytoy and abandons her faithful servants and acts like a moron would be a good ruler of Westeros?

Tommen? Nerds favorite character because he owns the nerds favorite pets cats and loves them (bitch please he's the next Ralph Wiggum)

Cersei? Manipulative, incest fucking bitch with no compassion for the people and no loyalty to them.

Sansa? Teenager experiencing teenage problems and would rule while being constantly on the edge and whack?

Littlefinger? Bitch please.

Everyone else are either psychos, backstabbing shits, naive young inexperienced kids or power hungry bitches.


Stannis is the most logical ruler of Westeros. Sure he does not have charisma but his Hand of the King could make up for that or whatever.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #1754 on: June 17, 2014, 02:12:23 pm »
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Am i the only one who think that Stannis will hire the wildlings with the support of the bank and then, push to the south in order to claim his legit right ?

EDIT: i didn't read the books.
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