Nerf longspear and pike.

[dreadnok]

Nerf downblock! I can't spam with my longspear! That's shit and suck!

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[dreadnok]

its no big deal really. half the hardcore pike and spear users are garbage with other weapons. if they cant vulture kills their nonexistent

[Mlekce]

like I said to another ignorant person on the server today...

Pike advantage: Lenght

Pike disadvantage: Low damage, slow as fuck, take 3 slot, cannot Sheath, one attack direction, make you move slower.

Yeah it's OP clearly... 

No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
They are fine,only thing that piss me off is that they can jump poke and block like they are holding a staff and not the 300 lenght weapon.
I can live with them.
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.

[Grumbs]

nm

[Player_01]

Blah blah nerf teamwork blah.

No.

[justme]

No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
They are fine,only thing that piss me off is that they can jump poke and block like they are holding a staff and not the 300 lenght weapon.
I can live with them.
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.

its the jump thats OP , not pikes

[Zanze]

No they are not weak. Largg,chase,dieler they always take me half of health with their jump,spin poking.
They are fine,only thing that piss me off is that they can jump poke and block like they are holding a staff and not the 300 lenght weapon.
I can live with them.
Only class i hate are lancers. That is low skill,shittiest class in the whole game.
So OP when you fight them on horse.

They have 26p or 24p. That is a weak amount of damage. The only reason we spear users do more damage than the weapon says, is because we are smart enough to abuse speed bonus(slower weapons benefit more) and to notice half of you guys wear socks under your plate armor. Playing on NA, I think a good 70% of my stabs go to the legs simply because people have +3 heavy kuyaks and +3 plate mittens...while wearing stock rus leather boots or something similar. Its even better when they do that and wear a leather helmet or none at all.

[Haboe]

Derp guy

[pingpong]

I plusvoted OP, just because im different.

[Royans]

Nerf speed and dmg longspear and pike. Tahts have so much speed and good pikerman can spam 2h... That so shit and suck. im pole and i can spam longsper.... -.-  Change longspeed for max maul speed omg longsped have: weapon length: 245 and weight: 2.5!@@!!!!! -.-
Now look that : Flamberge weapon length: 152 and weight: 4.... very realistic bro.... -.- more buff spear. meaby spear 300 long and speed 100?? or throw spear...? Sro for english.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[Tom Cruise]

Fuck that on nerfing speed and damage. The only problem I have with longspears and pikes is how they can poke you with the middle of the spear as opposed to, ya know...the actually spear head, and how they can bend that shit over and around walls. Feel like I'm watching the movie Wanted.

[Dach]

From strat battles perspective everything what you said is not true (low dmg? Are u kidding me?). Or at least it's not disadvantage of pikes. There are almost no duels, mostly fight in clusterfuck and under these circumstances pikes are not only OP but also - if other team has dozen or more pikers - it's gamebreaking for every other melee class. At least in my opinion.

24p isn't low? 

and for the rest.... yeah nerf weapon because of teamplay... sound right... 

 

[Falka]

24p isn't low? 

MW Pike 27 pierce dmg, MW Long spear 29 pierce dmg. On the other hand German GS has the best thrust among 2h swords, 29 pierce dmg when +3. Every other 2h sword have lower stab dmg. Are you trying to say that German GS has weak stab? And I thought that pikes are supposed to be supportive weapons.

Also, I didn't say I want to nerf pikes, I just think that strat battles with so many pikers become boring. Not to mention it shouldn't be possible to stab a guy standing right behind you with 3 m pike.

[Zanze]

MW Pike 27 pierce dmg, MW Long spear 29 pierce dmg. On the other hand German GS has the best thrust among 2h swords, 29 pierce dmg when +3. Every other 2h sword have lower stab dmg. Are you trying to say that German GS has weak stab? And I thought that pikes are supposed to be supportive weapons.

Also, I didn't say I want to nerf pikes, I just think that strat battles with so many pikers become boring. Not to mention it shouldn't be possible to stab a guy standing right behind you with 3 m pike.

Are you trying to compare a two handed sword with a long spear / pike? Then saying that the poles should be balanced around 2hsword stabbing stats? lol.

I mean, not like you have 3 other attack directions that your two handed sword is balanced around. What do these long poles get?

Spears dominated medieval warfare, makes sense they will dominate here. If you want to avoid teamwork, duel server.

[Falka]

Are you trying to compare a two handed sword with a long spear / pike? Then saying that the poles should be balanced around 2hsword stabbing stats? lol.

Did you read that in my post? Where exactly?  As I said 29 pierce dmg isn't low, no matter if we're talking about polearms, 2h or 1h. Noone in his right mind say German GS has weak thrust dmg and when polespear has exactly the same dmg (or slightly worse in the case of pike) it's low? Yeah, makes sense