NAKED BUILD!

[Commodore_Axephante]

Hey guys,

I'm a new player with wild and offputting ideas. Even if you think they're stupid, perhaps you might play along, just for the sake of fun?

The idea is a naked build - IE, no body armor - designed to kill as fast as possible without getting hit. To that end, I won't use any Iron Flesh - like I said, getting hit is not an option.

Now here's the kicker - I want to use the Great Maul. Seems the quickest tool to get the job done. But, I don't want to be completely defenseless when charging an archer, so... a little throwing?

What do you think? Any suggestions? If you were to do this moronic build, how would you do it? What's the minimum PA and 2-handed prof I could get away with, while still packing a punch, so as I have some room to train a little throw?

[no_rules_just_play]

[CrazyCracka420]

Only two suggestions, experiment with a Character calculator: 

http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm <--- this is pretty user friendly, but the WPF calculations are wrong
http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/  <--- this has 100% accurate WPF calculator

2nd set of advice is not to use a great maul.  You're a fast moving player trying to avoid being hit.  You should be using a fast and/or long weapon that will help you avoid enemy hits.

The Great Maul is slow and heavy, when you chamber the weapon you're going to be moving slow and people WILL be able to move into range to hit you.  Since it's not very long you're going to have to get close to hit these people, but since it's also slow, they will be able to hit you before you hit them (in theory), thus negating the crushthrough and damage of the Great Maul.

I'd personally suggest going with a long polearm (like the long bardiche) it is somewhat slow, but it's strong and has good reach.  You really should be using a weapon that's either slow but long, or has a fast swing speed. 

A polearm would work for being long (but relatively slow) and hit hard.  For a fast weapon, I'd recommend going with something that has the best of all worlds (medium strength, medium length, pretty fast) and that would be something like the faster 2h swords.   

[Commodore_Axephante]

you can already abandon that idea.


playing naked = leeching = banable =  NOT FUN
i guess you dont want to be banned from the servers because you have a new build and didnt know the rules yet. I dont think there is  a single server where you are allowed to play naked. all admins and players will instantly start to warn/kick/ban you.

Hmm, I played for a few hours last night on a NA server with a proto-build, and nobody seemed to mind... definitely died more than I killed, but I was carrying my own weight enough to avoid pissing people off. But, maybe you're right. Could pose a problem later, I suppose.

Also, what's leeching?

And yes, "never getting shot" is impossible. But I don't mind getting taken down every here and there. It's about glory, after all.

So you guys suggest an agility build, for a light-armored (if not naked) character?

[Malaclypse]

Leeching is intentionally not contributing to the team, usually by not spawning with a weapon and idling. Spawning naked (without armor) isn't leeching, as with a weapon in hand even a naked man can take out a significant number of the enemy.

A good naked build for the great maul is probably 21/21. 7 ath, 7 PS, 3 WM. If you really wanted throwing in there you could go 21/18 with 6 PT, 6 ath, 7 PS, 4 WM, as much prof as is needed for your 6 PT (13*6=78 prof with no loss from armor weight, the rest goes into 2-hand). Or you could go 4 PT (enough to use Heavy Throwing Axes) and opt for more WM for more 2-hand prof.

[Carthan]

Leeching is basically only joining a server and either going afk or being a drain that does not contribute to the team.
There are several different variants of leeches in the land of c-RPG and it would be impossible to catch and examine all different species and their habits.

[Commodore_Axephante]

Well, My character (Naked_Fanatic) is anything but that. I throw myself in with the best of them. It's just a question as to how.


EDIT: I see now (learning how the site works) that my kill ratio for that first few hours was 2 kills for every 17 deaths. That might actually count as leaching, haha. But then again, I was still getting gear.

[Commodore_Axephante]

How about this (long maul build using that calc CrazyCracka provided):

Code: (NAKED FANATIC 21/18) [Select]

Level:           30

Strength:        21
Agility:         18

Attr to skill:    0
Skill to attr:    8

Ironflash:        0
Power Strike:     7
Shield:           0
Athletics:        6
Riding:           0
Horse Archery:    0
Power Draw:       0
Power Throw:      4
Weapon Master:    6

One Handed:       1
Two Handed:       1
Polearm:        140
Archery:          1
Crossbow:         1
Throwing:        86
^{using cRPG NewGen calc}

Throwing is meant to be used from 10 feet away, tops. Could I get away with less prof?

[Muki]

playing nude on NA is not leeching as long your contributing to the team it should be fine

[no_rules_just_play]

Leeching is intentionally not contributing to the team, usually by not spawning with a weapon and idling. Spawning naked (without armor) isn't leeching, as with a weapon in hand even a naked man can take out a significant number of the enemy.

maybe being naked isnt leeching, but it is certainly against the server rules and bannable

i quote from cmp (you can check it in the server rules sticky in the announcement section)

No leeching
OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die

clear enough?

[Bronto]

I think you misread the cmp quote. Naked runners don't contribute. the only place our friend here is running, is into the fray, with a weapon trying to get kills. that is not leeching, that is mortal combat of the nudest variety. he is not naked kiting unarmed.

[Commodore_Axephante]

I think you misread the cmp quote. Naked runners don't contribute. the only place our friend here is running, is into the fray, with a weapon trying to get kills. that is not leeching, that is mortal combat of the nudest variety. he is not naked kiting unarmed.

Here here!

[agweber]

I'm with Bronto on this. It's perfectly fine to run around without armor if you're still trying to contribute to the fight.

Also, it's pretty funny that the guy here that's screaming rules back and forth has the username no_rules_just_play

[no_rules_just_play]

its from waterpolo, thats a sport. ;P

btw pro tip: NEVER EVER JOIN DTV_HRE (they instabann your ass )

[Taser]

I have a naked alt that's 27/12 that uses a iron staff. It kicks ass. I might have gone 24/15 for more ath but I wanted more PS to kill things faster since I don't want extended fights when I'm naked.