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Offline Aztek

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2012, 02:50:51 am »
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Just wanted to say good fight tonight guys, Thanks for those who showed up for both sides, and especially those who came to our aid last minute as we were lacking in the roster department.

Lets leave the rest of the comments out of here.

So again,

- Good fight
- Thanks to everyone for showing up
- Tomorrow is another day

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2012, 03:18:25 am »
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I was going to post a picture of our fuckhuge equipment list, but I print screened it and then lost it while writing this post. Oops. We had so much gear that we couldn't equip any projectile weapons or ammo for the first few minutes of the battle. That's why we were throwing ourselves at the fight without any order. Had to do everything we could to lose equipment!

I understand why HP might not like you guys anymore, the vassal thing sounds like bullshit and makes no sense i'm sorry, a 1 man clan don't have vassals. I'm pretty sure everybody beside ppl from your clan sees the Bird clan absorbing LLjK like a cheap move from LLjK to get protection from FCC. At least that's how i see it and no amount of bad propaganda and excuses will make me see another angle to that move.

What doesn't make sense? We swore vassalage to BIRD CLAN. It's really that simple. Apparently everyone thought it was a joke until shit got real.

Here's an angle for ya:

This is what I don't understand. We've been very clear and honest about why we're involved in this war. We have always claimed to be vassals of BIRD CLAN, and you are the unfortunate party to find out it was more than a joke. You honestly got screwed here. Yes, that is true. LLJK became BIRD CLAN just as you were ready to attack (a coincidence on partyboy's part, but perhaps not LLJK's), which then also forced our hand to get involved. We had other plans before this all happened, and we would happily leave if you would call off this war against the peaceful BIRD nation. We simply must defend them from any aggressor.

Hey, it's the same thing you just said, only I said it 2 weeks ago! Crazy, right? You can call us liars all you want, but the story hasn't changed. Maybe it's silly, but we will defend BIRD CLAN, so people better accept it for what it is. There is no conspiracy. Again, we would have attacked Hero Party's fiefs if we really wanted to fight them. We're clearly not doing that.

and FCC completely removing KUTT from the map because THEY decided they were not fit to hold any land at all.

As far as I'm concerned, the KUTT war happened because they were allied with Hospitallers. Many factions were already attacking Hosp, so we tied up their biggest ally and our neighbor. And, honestly, who wouldn't be wary when the friend of your enemy is your neighbor? KUTT had said that they wouldn't be helping Hosp during the war, but we didn't believe that. Really, who forms an alliance and defensive pact and then declares that they will not be helping in any way? Now that does not make sense! In any case, we forced them to not be able to help. Who knew the wars against Hosp would all die down while ours raged on? That did kind of make it pointless in the end. Sorry, KUTT.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2012, 04:04:55 am »
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Lets hear 3 cheers for Aztek! Best god damn Diplomat Hosp has ever had! No bull shit no Sarcasm just plain facts. 
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2012, 04:45:56 am »
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Everyone in the community knows that you are bird clans protector no matter how many times you type the word vassal.

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2012, 04:59:47 am »
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Speaking of people with grudges...

Everyone in the community knows that you are bird clans protector no matter how many times you type the word vassal.

No shit we're going to protect them. You think we would swear vassalage and then do nothing? I'm sure that sounded like a great argument in your head.

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2012, 05:12:31 am »
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not sure where the post anger came form Shinny but I will try and trim it down and clear some things up.

1. Been bird clans vassals since strat 2 (maybe before but that is when i started playing) So nothing new. HP was just the first people to attack them. If I had the time I would bother looking back and pulling out an old post from forever ago stating it. Well prior to HP attacking them.

2. Did lljk do a crappy thing and turn pink to avoid an attack. Very likely.. Did anyone consult FCC about it. No sir. Just happened one day and we reacted the best we could the next. Honestly would rather have not gotten involved. But that would have been shitty of us.

3. HP war (peace keeping mission) was never a big thing. Once they left bird clan lands we generally forgot about it.

4. Not sure why occitan is mad at us. We actually tried to be friends with you guys this strat when you came back to NA. Tried to help get you new lands and everything and open trade. Pretty much told no thanks.

5. Not sure why people keep throwing the kutt war in our faces like we were picking on anyone. At the time they had more members than us and were allied with Hosp another large faction. We attacked them on our own and did very well. Even taking two cities on first attack no shitty raids (who else has done that this strat?) About half way thru I tried to broker a piece deal with great terms. Was told no thanks we were asking for to much.. again there is a thread somewhere with the details. Told them point blank we wanted one of the cites and we would give other stuff back... if not then we will try and take it all... That happened. Wen then gave away a large portion of what we won to new clans who are now their own entity in the north separate from us.

6. Hosp attacked us first... We wanted them to do it I am sure but still they could have ignored the guy.

7. yeah I actually like some of the hosp guys. But its a war game.. you can not hate on us because we play it like one. Everyone else seems to be playing house at the moment and spending their time at home with their feet up. IF we do that all our people get bored and quit.


TL/DR   FCC is mean do not be our friends.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2012, 05:23:11 am »
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Traditionally vassals are the ones that need protection from their larger and more powerful lords to whom they swore fealty. The true order of relations here would be that bird clan is, in fact, your vassal. Regardless of how you want to spin it.

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2012, 05:29:59 am »
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No anger at all Bale, im just saying rather calmly what i think a lot of people from other clans might think but not say for fear of getting on the bad side of the fence or just because they don't bother reading/posting on the forums at all. At this point whatever trouble i could get into for saying what i think is the least of my concerns so i figured i could give my opinion on these subjects
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2012, 05:33:58 am »
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4. Not sure why occitan is mad at us. We actually tried to be friends with you guys this strat when you came back to NA. Tried to help get you new lands and everything and open trade. Pretty much told no thanks.

Um not sure where you get that we still not mad after all  but we unforthunatly cant trade with you.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2012, 05:48:59 am »
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Um not sure where you get that we still not mad after all  but we unforthunatly cant trade with you.

Why not??  We are actually opening up trade deals with 2-3 new clans recently, would be glad to trade with you,.  Hell, we just "traded" 22,000 goods with Hospitallers.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2012, 11:17:00 am »
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Why not??  We are actually opening up trade deals with 2-3 new clans recently, would be glad to trade with you,.  Hell, we just "traded" 22,000 goods with Hospitallers.

Ohhhh Snap! .... wait!  lol

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2012, 12:02:39 pm »
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Traditionally vassals are the ones that need protection from their larger and more powerful lords to whom they swore fealty. The true order of relations here would be that bird clan is, in fact, your vassal. Regardless of how you want to spin it.

Duh, he's the GODKING. There can be no more powerful than he.

We swore allegiance. You can go ahead and call us protectors if it makes you feel better. I have no interest in arguing semantics with you.

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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2012, 05:37:39 pm »
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Aztek I was completely serious about working with u to not fight these over night battles. Even if that means stopping our armies in place so we can land attacks during prime time. We now have a 1 and 2 am coming up, with more waiting to go after. I hate being in a war that I do not even get to fight. Yout have me on steam, lets start talking, a little coordination and we can have them at good time, otherwise it ruins everyone's fun.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2012, 08:34:30 pm »
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Spergs don't understand that you can be a one person faction and command vassals with nothing more than blazing charisma.  And I'm not going to explain any more of how LLJK wasn't hiding behind FCC at all as they agreed to completely dissolve their faction and give up to BIRD CLAN.  LLJK is dead and the members I took from them, as well as the fiefs, have become my property and thus an extension of myself.  I am the GODKING, BRING BACK LADDERS.
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Re: A humble request for support in our invasion
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2012, 09:04:48 pm »
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Partyboy is a GODKING and can put points into Charisma and Intelligence while the rest of us are stuck with Strength and Agility.

Therefore, his character is far more superior than ours and we are obedient to his command.
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