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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2011, 05:13:02 pm »
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Nope. The break chance is per-minute, didn't you know? :D
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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2011, 05:15:16 pm »
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In fact, it becomes consistent now, and actually it will prevent the "tincan when autobalance favours you, else naked" fad we're seeing.

Btw:
0.04 (4% break chance) * 0.05 (5% cost) * 25000 gold gear = 50 gold per minute

Incidentally, the same as your gold income sans multipliers - so you will be able to upkeep 25k gold gear (actually, probably a bit less because of, well, rounds not lasting for exactly X minutes but less etc) if you're constantly on the losing team.

Which will probably translate into 50K of gear for a average player taking the average multiplier for a average player is 2x. Which actually gives a lot of leeway, 50K is a big sum - top tier weapons are about 10k, good armour / gloves / boots / helm combined cost about 30ish, etc. In fact, it may be too much, actually. Maybe 5% break chance would be better.

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2011, 05:24:35 pm »
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 :cry:

Just found my favorite polearms base price were inflated x2 at least. NOW I CAN"T upkeep a decent gear.

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Maybe i should go back to 2hand, one weapon kills all mode.

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2011, 05:27:58 pm »
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In fact, it becomes consistent now, and actually it will prevent the "tincan when autobalance favours you, else naked" fad we're seeing.

Btw:
0.04 (4% break chance) * 0.05 (5% cost) * 25000 gold gear = 50 gold per minute

I think it's a little more complicated than that?  I was under the impression each minute there was a 4% chance the game would select one of your unbroken equipped items and break it.  Your formula applies if every item you equip is worth 25k, right?

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2011, 05:29:32 pm »
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loomed items, is their upkeep cost 5% of items original price or loomed price???

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2011, 05:31:33 pm »
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Base price definitely goes up... about 33% each heirloom

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2011, 05:32:54 pm »
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I don't like your idea...

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2011, 05:48:53 pm »
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:cry:

Just found my favorite polearms base price were inflated x2 at least. NOW I CAN"T upkeep a decent gear.

Long Hafted Blade   4622
Heavy Lance   4798
Bec de Corbin   7312

Maybe i should go back to 2hand, one weapon kills all mode.

TBH, WHY should you be able to carry 3 high tier polearms: Swords are not the fastest, or the most damage, or the longest, but they ARE (ingame and irl) the best balanced: You can do a bit of everything with them. Polearms each fit a different purpose: There is no swiss army knife anymore in crpg, and nor should there be. If Rock beats Paper AND Scissors, we broke the game.
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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2011, 06:30:22 pm »
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In fact, it becomes consistent now, and actually it will prevent the "tincan when autobalance favours you, else naked" fad we're seeing.

Btw:
0.04 (4% break chance) * 0.05 (5% cost) * 25000 gold gear = 50 gold per minute

Incidentally, the same as your gold income sans multipliers - so you will be able to upkeep 25k gold gear (actually, probably a bit less because of, well, rounds not lasting for exactly X minutes but less etc) if you're constantly on the losing team.

Which will probably translate into 50K of gear for a average player taking the average multiplier for a average player is 2x. Which actually gives a lot of leeway, 50K is a big sum - top tier weapons are about 10k, good armour / gloves / boots / helm combined cost about 30ish, etc. In fact, it may be too much, actually. Maybe 5% break chance would be better.

There's 1 miscalculation here:
The break chance is 4% PER INDIVIDUAL ITEM. So if you use 8 different items, you have 8 times a 4% chance it will break.
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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 06:32:22 pm »
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There's 1 miscalculation here:
The break chance is 4% PER INDIVIDUAL ITEM. So if you use 8 different items, you have 8 times a 4% chance it will break.

Doesn't matter, since the sum of 0.04*0.05*individual_item_cost for all items totalling 25K of cost and 0.04*0.05*25000 both equal 50 gold.

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 06:32:27 pm »
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There is no swiss army knife anymore in crpg

Except the lolswords.   :wink:
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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 06:55:17 pm »
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in b4 didn't read anything but OP.

Why reducing exp gain? There's the cap there, the sooner we reach it, the better
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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 07:10:58 pm »
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Doesn't matter, since the sum of 0.04*0.05*individual_item_cost for all items totalling 25K of cost and 0.04*0.05*25000 both equal 50 gold.

It does matter, grab a book and look it up. The 4% is for each item per minute, with 8 slots that more like 32% one item breaks, while your formula is only correct if you wear a single item of 25k value and nothing on the other slots.

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 07:19:48 pm »
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It does matter, grab a book and look it up. The 4% is for each item per minute, with 8 slots that more like 32% one item breaks, while your formula is only correct if you wear a single item of 25k value and nothing on the other slots.

4% each item, or 4% chance that one item breaks? 

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Re: Patch Fix On The Way Today! (Changelog Included)
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2011, 07:24:14 pm »
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It does matter, grab a book and look it up. The 4% is for each item per minute, with 8 slots that more like 32% one item breaks, while your formula is only correct if you wear a single item of 25k value and nothing on the other slots.

Sword (10K): .04*.05*10000 = 20
Body Armor (5K): .04*.05*5000 = 10
Head Armor (4K): .04*.05*4000 = 8
Leg Armor (3K): .04*.05*3000 = 6
Hand Armor(2K): .04*.05*2000 = 4
Shield (1K): .04*.05*1000 = 2

You can add these up, and it comes out to 50 gold. 

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