Native vs cRPG

[Kelugarn]

18/21
164 Polearm wpf
+3 quarter staff (101 speed)
.8 total armor weight

Game feels slow.

[Arrowblood]

2 quivers of arrows, game feels slow.

[Leshma]

Feels slow with one quiver and only 6 ath. And I'm using bodkins.

[Armycook_of_KSantiago]

Dunno why but every native server i went is fastest combat speed, and greatsword have 96 speed and 42 cut damage....

[Corsair831]

Combat speed
Nditions: medium
cRPG: medium

Weapon speed
Nditions: 98 (Bastard Sword)
cRPG: 101 (Bastard Sword, not loomed)

Effective WPF
Nditions: 130 (Swadian Infantry, cloth)
cRPG: 163 (18/21 build, cloth)

Yes, that is so much slower. Have you considered not using a Greatsword maybe?

Two Handed Sword, i said nothing about the bastard sword, the one you recently buffed in speed

 -_-


I wasnt only talking about that anyway, try some other weapons they're all vastly slower in crpg even with looms and high WPF

[Haboe]

Whats with blocking you say?

I think you use the wrong part of your body to block

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[Kato]

Two Handed Sword, i said nothing about the bastard sword, the one you recently buffed in speed

 -_-


I wasnt only talking about that anyway, try some other weapons they're all vastly slower in crpg even with looms and high WPF

Yeah, all we need is absolutely broken internal weapon balance like in native, where long high damaging weapon are almost as quick as shorter weapons.

Try to play agi build in rags. Speed with some weapons is insane.

Native feels more fluid (probably mostly because of lolstab animation) and less laggy (on nditions few others good server, most native small server are super laggy, way more than crpg), but certainly its not quicker.

The reasons why people find fighting in native to be more fun:

- not boring opponents (thanks to lolstab and almost no armor )


And medium speed is the best in my opinion, fastest speed takes whole bunch of skil away(where only feintspam and pure twitch reflexes stay)

[Corsair831]

Yeah, all we need is absolutely broken internal weapon balance like in native, where long high damaging weapon are almost as quick as shorter weapons.

Try to play agi build in rags. Speed with some weapons is insane.

Native feels more fluid (probably mostly because of lolstab animation) and less laggy (on nditions few others good server, most native small server are super laggy, way more than crpg), but certainly its not quicker.

The reasons why people find fighting in native to be more fun:

- not boring opponents (thanks to lolstab and almost no armor )


And medium speed is the best in my opinion, fastest speed takes whole bunch of skil away(where only feintspam and pure twitch reflexes stay)

in native 2h being powerful is balanced out by archers actually being able to hit something (unlike crpg).

and even agi in rags is slower than native normal

[Osiris]

odd in most native battle servers i don't feel as fast as you keep making out corsair. Nditions feels fast but that's due to crazy feints and no armour and the insane speed of the stab

[Falka]

balanced out by archers actually being able to hit something (unlike crpg).

             

[Blueberry Muffin]

Who in their right mind plays native anyways? A load of epeen whoring, marco abusing retards; backed up by horses than have double the hp of crpg horses, pinpoint bows and xbows and dont get me started on the horse archers of native..... Any duels I had on native were boring as hell, even their supposed best players such as tobi, all had the same super defensive playerstyle, with a set pattern of difficult to see macro feints... There is no fluidity or variance in this, no need to adapt to new playstyles....

[Leshma]

Not to mention that autoblockers are "free" in native. Native is awful.

[cmp]

native
balanced
archers

It should be forbidden by law to put those 3 words in the same sentence.

[Paul]

For Native clan matches archers were actually kinda balanced. Shield was a must for inf though then. The bad thing were xbowmen who had the best of both worlds: ranged and a shield to be protected from ranged when relocating. The Russians actually won the first NC with their scatter&shoot tactic with xbows. Our German team did rather well although being very inf heavy.

[Tot.]

Who in their right mind plays native anyways? A load of epeen whoring, marco abusing retards; backed up by horses than have double the hp of crpg horses, pinpoint bows and xbows ...

Even with crazily overpowered ranged native battle is still way better than cRPG 2 minute duels with multiple successful hits and no kills just to get lanced in the back or shot. Or your weapon gets stuck on a teammate thats 2 meters behind you. People with too much hp, wearing too much armor and too many bullshit glances.

On side note, yeah, macroing should be bannable so there aren't retards like Tobi, though a lot of things in Warband isn't working competitive-wise, one might start with transparent walls and no way to detect that. WB is just a fun little game with cool melee system, noone sane takes it seriously once you realize how defenseless it is against people who got to win at any cost.