Shield + 1h stabbing weapon

[PORUBOT]

Sup guys, relatively new to this mod.

Would it be a viable tactic to use a large shield + short stabbing sword, sort of Roman tactics, in this?
Or would I just end up overwhelmed by longer ranged 2h weapons most of the time?

Can my characters speed be boosted enough to get within range and cause damage?

[Palian555]

Firt word: Hello to Forum and Hello to cRPG

it's your opinion, if you want to play as 2h + Thrower, so learn it and play as a 2h + Thrower
But Back to the topic
If you got more then 1 shield, you may reach the 2hander and maybe you also can kill him with your "overpowered"-Short-sword-speed.

But you know, what follows now

Skill on Agi... converte some Skill points to Atribute points, skill the right things(it's easy as a normaly short sworder) and if you dont want to play anymore as a short hander then you can make your new charackter at lvl 31(Gen II)

One thing i want to say, its rly hard to slay any ppl at the beginning, so stay back, try to help only a little, and as short swordener its more difficult at beginn, dont be scared of your killtimes(mine is at 242[i know i know]) anyway you and your skill only can get up.
If you firstly want to calculate your skill you can try your skill first

Greetings
Palian

[Rhygar666]

if you wish to use stabbing as a one hander get a long espada eslanova, it has great stabbing damage, reach is great too.
it makes no sense using a small one hander, unless you want something special like a warhammer or steel pick

your speed can be boasted its hard until you get the range of your weapon, or you just hit the air (im using steel pick with 64 range and its hard, but great when you get a kill.)

[Palian555]

@Rhygar666 and the other's who are looking at this topic

Yep the Long Espada Eslanova is a great weapon, it is a balanced weapon(The low speed is balanced by the lenght and the damage[the speed isnt so low]

[PORUBOT]

I wouldn't purposely nerf myself and stick to shorter swords if there's better alternatives, but I definitely want to go with a quick in-an-out kinda guy, shield bash my way in, stab, back out.
It's my favourite strategy for sieges, works great on native for defending doorways etc.

[Rhygar666]

you can use a long espada eslanova or another sword with good reach (i would take Knightly Arming Sword)
and something wholly different like military pick (insame damage, mostly 1hits)  or 1 useful weapon like warhammer (knockdown = dead enemy) or axe to kill shields.

[Kansuke]

I think you should go for the Broad short sword, it's a good stabbing weapon and when heirloomed it's fast as hell
 
Broad short sword
weight 1
requirement 6
spd rtng 102
weapon length 86
swing damage 27, cut
thrust damage 25 pierce
Gen1= 102spd 29cut 27pierce
Gen2= 103spd 30cut 27pierce
Gen3= 104spd 30cut 28pierce

[Baggy]

Looks way too small.

[Cyclopsided]

If you got more then 1 shield, you may reach the 2hander and maybe you also can kill him with your "overpowered"-Short-sword-speed.

I just want to clarify this for you, do NOT carry more than one shield. That is all I want to add to this conversation.
Carrying multiple shields hinders your movement hugely for no gain. If you have high shield skill your shields will rarely break, ever.

[H4rdn3ssKill3r]

SHORT SWORD ALL THE WAY RAWR!!
No really its INSANE with 150 wpf...

Do you wanna know why? because it has got 103 speed and decent demage, nah just kidding, its good n all but long espade is where its at!

[Digglez]

Sup guys, relatively new to this mod.

Would it be a viable tactic to use a large shield + short stabbing sword, sort of Roman tactics, in this?
Or would I just end up overwhelmed by longer ranged 2h weapons most of the time?

Can my characters speed be boosted enough to get within range and cause damage?

Spears are good team friendly weapon, meaning you are not very likely to be accidently stabbing teammates compared to if you were using a horizontal slashing weapon.  Do not expect to be taking on people by yourself though.

For a newbie, shield + warspear is a good starting point.  Learn to block with shield and box people in for teammates to kill and get in a few jabs when they stop paying attention to you.  Your shield is going to be more valuable than weapon for first generation.

[Mala]

Sup guys, relatively new to this mod.

Would it be a viable tactic to use a large shield + short stabbing sword, sort of Roman tactics, in this?
Or would I just end up overwhelmed by longer ranged 2h weapons most of the time?

Can my characters speed be boosted enough to get within range and cause damage?

I use something similar, shortsword with light shields. Back then it was a bit easier, but since more and more 2handers have discovered the usefulness of the stab, times have become harder.
Stabs with 1hand weapons are a bit tricky, if you are too close, then they bounce off and leave you exposed. One of the main reasons of my deaths.

Well shortswords itself, the short broad sword is quite nice, but the upgrades are crap.
The cheaper short arming sword gets the same masterwork values as the short broad sword, but it is a bit faster.

Speed is the other problem. Your equipment slows you down and if you want to keep your shield for a longer time, you have to invest in shield skill, which means 2handers have quite often a higher athletics skill, because they have more points to convert.
You can counter this a bit with lighter armour, but you will never fast enough to dance in and out of their weapon reach.

[Elmetiacos]

For a short stabby gladius type sword, Scottish Sword is perhaps your best bet. It's a good newbies' weapon, too because it's unexpectedly fast.

[Penitent]

Yeah, short swords are good for their speed.  Also, you can "face-hug" your opponent, and they may have a hard time hitting you with a longer weapon.

As a sword+shield guy myself, my favorite opponents are polearm and 2h fighters.

I use the Italian Sword.  Now THAT is a perfectly balanced weapon.  Great speed, good length, good damage, great thrust, and great cost.