Life is Feudal (now on Steam Greenlight!)

[Butan]

Stop looking for arguments against the game now that they ask for your money, greedy bastards 

[Xant]

Stretch goals are completely fine. They could have a final stretch goal of 10 million. It's the fact that they're asking for 200k or nothing and that it costs 90 euros to get access to beta in ~1 year is what's crazy.

[TePlayer]

200 000:

90k for the game
70k for the vodka
40k to feed boris

HAHAHA THIS !!

[Leesin]

It's a shame because this does look like something I would play, but it seems they think they have already created the most revolutionary awesome game,  with high ridiculous prices just for beta stage 2 and a funding goal which would really surprise me if they met it. I think they need to be humbled and brought back down to earth and sadly I think it will be their game failing to hit their fund target that will do it.

[Tibe]

I would be fairly suprised if it even reached 60k.

[Miwiw]

Closed Beta Access for 90€... Haha, normal Beta Access for 50€. There will be months Closed Beta <-> Beta, as the Alpha I Phase didn't even start it seems... and for 35€ you get near to nothing, except for the game upon release + forum access. And I doubt the game will be released in the next 5 years. =D

It still looks very interesting, not sure if I should invest know 'cause I don't really know them at all.

[Vibe]

Yeah this will never go through. I think they'll have to redo their crowdfunding campaign with something that's a bit more reasonable

[Xant]

The most retarded thing is that they have it set to "Fixed Funding", meaning that if they don't get 200,000, they get nothing. Stupid as fuck, I guess they absolutely need 200k to make the game, because otherwise it makes no sense not to set it to "Flexible Funding" which means that even if you don't reach your goal you still get everything people have pledged so far.

[Rumblood]

These guys took the wrong turn at Albuquerque.

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[chadz]

The most retarded thing is that they have it set to "Fixed Funding", meaning that if they don't get 200,000, they get nothing. Stupid as fuck, I guess they absolutely need 200k to make the game, because otherwise it makes no sense not to set it to "Flexible Funding" which means that even if you don't reach your goal you still get everything people have pledged so far.

I disagree about that. Flexible funding is horrible, because no one wants to give money when it turns out to only result in, for example, 10k/200k. Because 10k wouldn't be enough to do something properly.

Flexible funding screams "I have no confidence in my project, it would be nice to get a lot of money, but I'll take anything you'll throw my way!"

In general, the "fixed funding" decision is the only decision in that campaign that was a good idea

[Xant]

Fair enough, but LiF isn't reaching 200,000; anything they'd get out of flexible funding would be a plus. I agree in general, but I don't think it really applies here. Perhaps if they'd set a 50,000 goal for their fixed funding it'd have been fine, but setting it as high as 200,000 with that funding model? Bad.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects?filter_quick=popular_all

Most of these are "flexible funding", I checked eight and six of them used that model. So it can be very successful.

[chadz]

Sure, they would have gotten more out of it if they switched to flexible funding... But they would have gotten way more out of it with sensible prices, a good presentation and some other worrying errors

[Xant]

Yep, there are few things they didn't do wrong. And it's sad, because a project like this doing well would've benefit everyone. Strangest thing is that their "CEO" has a PhD in Economics, when reading the first twenty pages of an economics book would show about ten errors in what they've done.

[Nessaj]

Some simple Googling would have done them a major favor, but I too wondered how exactly that sort of pricing came to be, given that their Project Lead has a PhD in Economics, he should know a thing or two about proper pricing, which involves both trickery and most namely psychology, something you learn quite fast in economics class.

Hopefully they'll find a way to get a version of their game out eventually though.

[Banok]

Fair enough, but LiF isn't reaching 200,000; anything they'd get out of flexible funding would be a plus. I agree in general, but I don't think it really applies here. Perhaps if they'd set a 50,000 goal for their fixed funding it'd have been fine, but setting it as high as 200,000 with that funding model? Bad.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects?filter_quick=popular_all

Most of these are "flexible funding", I checked eight and six of them used that model. So it can be very successful.

I clicked that link and found a campaign for vagina armour. not kidding. they could have at least made it look like red sonja's mail bikini, but NO...