Help with Khergit Bow Archer.

[Dravic]

Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Hit points: 59
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 5
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 8
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 148
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

+ Khergit bow.

Will it work?
Take a look here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4136.msg75147.html#msg75147

Pauls post in first page and whole next page.

[Wulzzz]

Sure would work..btw quote the text you are refering to pls.
But.. i would only use khirgit bow for small maps because the arrows fly really slow with khirgit bow.

[Dravic]

Wulz, what build would you suggest and with what bow for "sniping"?

I mean, really good accuracy and bow that allows long range shoting without aiming at the sky ;)

How about this?:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 27
Hit points: 50
Converted: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 3
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 9
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 181
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

With Strong Bow.


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Anyone can tell me, how many wpf do I need to get max accuracy with Strong Bow? Or at least almost max accuracy?

Wondering if this build will be much less accurate?:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 50
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 173
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[EponiCo]

The first one is pretty bad imo, since:
Lowish damage on long range
You can't fight in melee
You have trouble running away
All that for a little more archery wpf, I can't comment on that, but for close range shooting I found little difference between 150 and 160.

[Wulzzz]

Yea, i would completely ignore athletics(especially that) and PS.Use maul or other blunt weapon, you can still kill without PS.

Something like 18/24 lvl 30
6 PD
8 WM
3 PS

(K, this build got 3 spare skill points.)

With strong bow.1 PD over required PD gives a little accuracy boost.
Strong bow cause war bow arrows don't fly faster and strong bow got more speed rating+the accuracy boost.
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EDIT:
Yea, max accuracy of bows is 96 and you reach it at like 160 wpf naked or so.
I have 173 wpf and my reticule is almost same in 20 effective weight and naked.(5 PD)

So your high wpf will allow you to wear heavy armor at max accuracy.

[kongxinga]

With strong bow.1 PD over required PD gives a little accuracy boost.

 Are you sure about this? I thought PD did not affect accuracy either way. There was a rumour it did, but that got disproven if I recall correctly.

[Dravic]

Disproven? Lol.

A guy showed that it does increase accuracy. I'd need to search for it, but there was some succesful test.

[Wulzzz]

Are you sure about this? I thought PD did not affect accuracy either way. There was a rumour it did, but that got disproven if I recall correctly.

Yup, checked it myself.The difference isn't huge but definately noticeable without using a microscope.

[Murchad]

I had alot of fun and did quite well with an 18/18 khergit archer
5IF
6pd
6ps
6ath
6wm

my bow and arrows were both triple heirloomed which makes dmg speed accuracy and arrow speed go up.

with an unheirloomed bow i would go with one of the higher dmg bows (strong or war)
although i did just make a shortbow archer which is super fun (15/24 with 3x heirloomed shortbow)

[Keshian]

24/12 archer with khergit was great fun for me, don't need the 15 it only adds 1 more athletics and 7-8 more wpf ebcause of how expensive it is at that level, this allows you to have the 8 powerstrike as well as 5 IF, with your 8 pd, 4 ath, 4 wm (69 hitpoints you survive a lot as an archer).  I don't think some of these people posting realize just how much powerdraw adds to shoot speed, you are shooting a khergit with 8 powerdraw like you would a strongbow with 6 powerdraw.  It goes far, shoots even faster and most of all it hits like a tank.  One of my more enjoyable builds.  Just use a side sword or other really fast 1 her, maybe katana (don't like how the animations work on it though) and you can hurta  lot with 8 powerstrike and still swing fast with 1 wpf.  Definitely give it a try.

And you can always switch to different bows with this build and try them out, but the build itself is great, there is a lot going for strength build archers.

[Wulzzz]

? Since when PD increases shoot speed 

Btw only runners put any skills in athletics 

[Keshian]

? Since when PD increases shoot speed 

Btw only runners put any skills in athletics 

1.  Powerdraw increases shoot speed (not draw speed), damage, and helps hold your reticule steadier for longer and slows the rate at which it goes wide again.
(if you didn't know, powerthrow also increases throw speed, partially why it does more than wpf to increase accuracy by giving a flatter trajectory)
2.  Athletics are useful in melee to clsoe in fast with an opponent especially if you have a short weapon so you only have to block once to get close, also when dueling another archer athletics allows you to sidestep arrows better while you are redrawing your bow for another shot, and also actually dodge xbow bolts and throwing weapons.  So useful to an archer.

[Wulzzz]

Well, my HA doesn't have any athletics and i felt i never had a problem with my maul in close combat....using pretty heavy armor with around 18 effective weight.

So it depends what the thread starter wants.. good in melee and archery or best archery possible..which i would favor.

[Dravic]

Keshian, so you think that 24/12 is good build? Nice ;D

I will definitly try your build. How about accuracy, btw?

[Osiris]

ive gone

18/21

3PS
7 ath
6 PD
7 wm

i use a longbow or strongbow depending on the map