Defeated defender and he kept all his troops and was not teleported

[Keshian]

two facepalms for not giving the link to the battle.

But 8 and possibly permaban for someone intentionally abusing this (aka doing it more than once)

First time he succesfully did it.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1352
(the battle shows different results than what happened, listed as losing and we lost all 800 troops and doom_kutt is running around with all our gear and 119 troops, I attacked him after an hour to try and get the gear abck, but will lose more tickets again in the process)  Dutchy_KUTT initiated the retreat both times

Then he tried again in the next fight.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1354
but it didnt seem to work because we were actually the defenders in that one.

Andswaru showed up for the last battle and vibe had mentioned banning in this thread, so he decided not to show up for the last one (thank god didnt want to lose another 700 troops and all the gear leftover from curaw siege, he was the attacker)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battledetail&id=1355

It would be nice to get the troops and gear back, but the main thing is to get it fixed as I think they will just try it again when an admin is not around.

[dodnet]

Next carpet ban of factions will be NA then? 

[BaleOhay]

So they successfully did it to us twice and tried a third that failed because they were the attacker?

[Lt_Anders]

So they successfully did it to us twice and tried a third that failed because they were the attacker?

No, they did it once, and failed a second time as attackers. Never bothered for the third one.

[Gristle]

So they successfully did it to us twice and tried a third that failed because they were the attacker?

We had 4 battles this morning:

1st: Defender retreated with no problems.
2nd: Defender retreated but somehow attackers lost.
3rd: Possible attempt to recreate the glitch but failed, likely because they were the attacker in this one.
4th: Defender didn't bother to show up, which was probably related to the drama seen in this thread.

Dutchy was the one to initiate the retreat all 3 times. I wouldn't have thought anything of it if it weren't for his incredibly suspect posts in this thread. Now I wonder why they would bother to show up at all when they only had 100 man armies and the plan was to retreat? If they had no intention of fighting and the result would be the same either way why bother unless he was aware of a glitch? There was an issue with someone retreating earlier in the war. Was that Dutchy, too?

[stickher]

loook at my msg


From:Moderators
To:Fus_BRD
Received:12/11/2012 04:48:21 AM
You have lost the battle against DooM_KUTT [63]
810 of 791 survived the battle.
Your soldiers killed 0 of their 118 men.

Item Result:
500 Rus Shoes lost
500 Horned Steppe Cap lost
500 Leather Gloves lost
100 Simple Sword lost
20 Boar Spear lost
70 Round Cavalry Shield lost
200 Sharp Arrows lost
40 Balanced Bastard Sword lost
550 Bolts lost
60 Fine Horn Bow lost
10 Heavy Bastard Sword lost
10 Two Handed Axe lost
250 Mail Mittens lost
70 Bastard Sword lost
50 Cracked Two Handed Axe lost
15 Nomad Bow lost
10 Strong Nomad Bow lost
500 Thick Blue Gambeson lost
50 Heavy Two Handed Axe lost
119 Deadly Boar Spear lost
6 Masterwork Arbalest lost
30 Heavy Round Shield lost
30 Light One Handed Battle Axe lost
15 Long Axe lost
10 Awlpike lost
10 Damaged Francisca lost
50 Thick Black Lamellar Vest lost
31 Thick Old Board Shield lost
5 Heavy War Axe lost
45 Sharp Bolts lost
15 Tempered Nordic Sword lost
45 Tempered Falchion lost
26 Deadly Light Lance lost
29 Elite Cavalry Shield lost
15 Light Crossbow lost
100 Dented Vaegir Helmet lost
100 Tattered Rawhide Coat lost
100 Battered Old Heater Shield lost
50 Cracked Quarter Staff lost
150 Masterwork Arrows lost
30 Masterwork Crossbow lost
10 Well Made Arbalest lost
300 Thick Khergit Lamellar Vest lost
400 Mail Coif lost
300 Rus Cavalry Boots lost
25 Mallet lost
50 Pike lost
30 Blue Norman Shield lost
50 Damaged Darts lost

[Tanken]

Sooooo, I'm just logging on after having beeen off all night. I don't know what caused the glitch, I did however tell my members to retreat from the battles simply to get through these horrific times as I stated in the other thread. This is the first I'm hearing of a glitch/exploit, and I do apologize for Dutchy's behavior.

Dutchy has been under the impression that Teutonics found some glitch that turned their armies invisible, which, is believable somewhat. The glitch he's referring to (though it could just be a map bug) is everytime that Teutonics have changed their color (now 3 or 4 times) whatever armies in motion they've had go invisible for about an hour, including the army that raided Slezkh Castle.

On a side note..

There was no intent put in place by KUTT as a whole to make use of an exploit, as I've stated we just wanted to get to EU side (this needs to be fixed too, fucking devs, why do we go to EU and never respawn in NA?) and then work on making our way back. The retreat was just to get us gone faster and not have to deal with crap--but here we are. 

[BaleOhay]

Can we get our gear back

[Rikthor]

Can we get our gear back

No, the devs don't refund gear due to bugs, exploits, or hacking even.

[Dutchydave]

We had 4 battles this morning:

1st: Defender retreated with no problems.
2nd: Defender retreated but somehow attackers lost.
3rd: Possible attempt to recreate the glitch but failed, likely because they were the attacker in this one.
4th: Defender didn't bother to show up, which was probably related to the drama seen in this thread.

Dutchy was the one to initiate the retreat all 3 times. I wouldn't have thought anything of it if it weren't for his incredibly suspect posts in this thread. Now I wonder why they would bother to show up at all when they only had 100 man armies and the plan was to retreat? If they had no intention of fighting and the result would be the same either way why bother unless he was aware of a glitch? There was an issue with someone retreating earlier in the war. Was that Dutchy, too?

"Dutchy was the one to initiate the retreat all 3 times". Thats a false allegation mate and I think you should be banned for making it.You cant have any proof of this cause its not true,but on the other hand I can prove your false allegation easy."im not high enough ranked to retreat other clan members battle's only my own".You must be rank 10 I believe to be able to do that.

[Snickers]

Don't give us this bullshit. If you going to retreat the battle with no alterior motives(Glitching the fight), you might aswell not show up. Don't fucking show up try to recreate a glitch then proceed to shovel bullshit onto us on the forums.