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Mars One
« on: November 10, 2012, 03:12:06 am »
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What do you think of it? Is it gonna happen? Or just Bullshit? Would you fly one-way to Mars?

I think it's astounding that they are actually planing this and seem to be serious about it. And it feels strange they wanna finance it by making a Mars-like Big Brother out of it, but it could actually work this way.


Oh, and when I watch their own commercial I think it could perfectly be some intro to a bad sci-fi horror splatter. Crew lands on Mars, one guy goes crazy like Jack Torrance or some Mars ghosts appear. :D

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 03:23:56 am »
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http://mars-one.com/en/mission/is-this-really-possible

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The Mars One astronauts will depart Earth with the assumption they will never return.

This sounds so badass.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 04:40:15 pm »
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Sounds pretty incredible.  :)
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2012, 04:59:17 pm »
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Seems pretty sweet to me. Aslong as the water and sunlight exsists on Mars, theres really nothing wrong with that plan.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 11:24:16 pm »
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Seems pretty sweet to me. Aslong as the water and sunlight exsists on Mars, theres really nothing wrong with that plan.

Mars's own water would be too complicated to obtain, no ? I think they will rather use a closed water cycle.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 11:34:24 pm »
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It says they are considering mining the frozen water on mars, and the hydrogen... I'm hoping this wont go the way of Virgin Space Travel, and vanish before anyone gets to leave the atmosphere. I WOULD offer to go with them but the ping to EU1 from Mars would be epicly shit.
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2012, 02:06:45 am »
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Mars's own water would be too complicated to obtain, no ? I think they will rather use a closed water cycle.

Yes, but atleast its obtainable without being too dependant on Earth's resources. Imo the biggest worry is about growing plants. Soil does loose its fertility over time and when constantly transporting more of it from Earth, the project still sorta looses its point. I quess it would be a 100% success if we manage to create a stable system on Mars that really only needs built machinery to run.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2012, 03:45:07 am »
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It says they are considering mining the frozen water on mars, and the hydrogen... I'm hoping this wont go the way of Virgin Space Travel, and vanish before anyone gets to leave the atmosphere. I WOULD offer to go with them but the ping to EU1 from Mars would be epicly shit.

Well I guess you could try to use the Internet with ultra hardcore ping (I'm not sure but I'd say one minute) when Mars and Earth are close together. Mars's revolution period is a little less than 2 years. However, when it is on the other side of the sun, good luck.

Yes, but atleast its obtainable without being too dependant on Earth's resources. Imo the biggest worry is about growing plants. Soil does loose its fertility over time and when constantly transporting more of it from Earth, the project still sorta looses its point. I quess it would be a 100% success if we manage to create a stable system on Mars that really only needs built machinery to run.

It's theoritically possible to export a complete nutrient cycle. You got light so you can have photosynthesis, you got humans and eventually animals that poop, you got water, you got some soil. You can artificially keep the soil rich by recycling all the biological waste of the colony (earth-worms and some bacteria types do that for a living). All this only requires energy, and energy we can easily get from the sun, or even a nuclear plant when the colony becomes big enough. Storing nuclear waste on a lifeless rock doesn't sound so bad (ofc the moon might be a better choice for that).

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 04:14:30 am »
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Is it possible to sling nuclear waste into the sun?

And if so, what are the consequences?
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 11:18:30 am »
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Well, they mention hydroponic growing so that removes the soil issue altogether.

I believe if you fired nuclear waste into the sun you would miss, but if you DID do the math right and managed to get in on course for the sun, it would probably burn up long before hitting the actual gass explosions the sun is made of. While this might ever so slightly affect the suns lifespan, I couldnt say wether it would be a postive or negative effect. I think it would depend on the efficiency of the cells the material was used in: anything left that is fissionable would ignite and create heat and light, any material that has had almost all potential energy removed would sap light and heat from the sun, but without a rate of transfer I really have no idea what the effect would be over time.

As a one off event, it would do very little and would destroy the material forever, unless you had collected such a huge mass of waste material that it managed to exhaust all energy the sun was outputting, to the point that it had not enough left to continue fission and release more. But for that we would have to have found a planet of ridiculous proportions made entirely of unstable reactive materials, then mined it, then expended the potential energy by transferring it to our storage grids.


BAHJURD: TL;DR version is... Fuck all. We wouldnt even notice an effect, it would simply vanish in space.
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 09:33:23 pm »
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all those poor or crazy fellas  :D

http://applicants.mars-one.com/profile/04845902-0364-44ce-afe5-420d4e798756

he has marsman eyes at least.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 10:10:00 pm »
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Is it possible to sling nuclear waste into the sun?

And if so, what are the consequences?

Zero. Nothing. The same goes for nuclear waste stored on any unhabited celestial body (asteroids too) or in impervious (?) facilities deep under sea level. The only problem is that sending nuclear waste into space would be so unefficient I'm not even sure the energy balance of doing fission + that is positive. On Mars though, there's almost nothing in danger if you just put them away from the colonies, like in a crater for example. Another good thing is that afaik Mars is super cold so cooling the plant would be very easy.

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Re: Mars One
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 10:27:19 pm »
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Another good thing is that afaik Mars is super cold so cooling the plant would be very easy.
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 10:27:38 pm »
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I am SO ready to do this.

Won´t happen because of my medical conditions, though.But I´d definately do it.

Maybe I should write to them that I want to participate as medical testing object haha :D
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Re: Mars One
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 10:30:40 pm »
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I am SO ready to do this.

Won´t happen because of my medical conditions, though.But I´d definately do it.

Maybe I should write to them that I want to participate as medical testing object haha :D
I hope they won't ever let any Boxxy fans to space :mrgreen:
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