My Dream. Strategus 5.0001

[Gingerpussy]

After playing Strategus from the start there is a very big wishlist for what i would like to implement into strategus.
This is just suggestions feel free to discuss or criticize.

1. Big battles is no longer happening. First thing i would like to change is the battle time for strat battles. They have to extend them longer so its possible to attack maybe with 3k troops or so. Today the timer is to important and is destroying many attempts on tactics, or limit the tactics that can be used. 

2. Reinforcement timer: I would like the reinforcement timer to until 2 hour before the battle. For both attacker and defender.

Why ? Well tactics can then be used on the map. And that the walking now are really slow so the 2h/5h rule thats is now, is practically not happening due to the long travel times.

3. Reinforcement/Support option: I would like to see a support option when you are close to a battle that still have reinforcement timer.

Why ? Would really help all the small factions that they to feel important. If you link to a made up real life looking world and you have a army next to a battle. The you have the option to support eight er part. It would bring tactics and movement tactics within the map. As well many different tactics when it comes to defense or attacker. And the fact that a small clan can for himself support larger clans in there efforts to rule Calradia. Think of it Drz attacking a Merc and then Olwen came along with 1400 troops or so .Who would he support or would he walk away . It would bring excitement i believe.

4. Something that's annoyed me is that there is no link with strat and cRPG ladder for information. Why cant u when looking at a fief get ur info about what clan owner is in and such. i would like to see it easier.

5. Alt characters. probably this idea have been mentioned for a long time and i was agreeing with the Devs that no Alts should be used in Strat battles. until now.
After i came back i see a lot of changes, armory and ladder for one. Basically now it don't mean anything that u are playing with your Alt char instead of main. but implementing that you can fight (choose char) when applying for battles would be nice. The main reason is that it would bring FUN into strategus for the players.

yeah FUN why ? think about tactics. example. So in a strat battle you need 10 % ranged or 20 % or whatever but think of the possibility if you can manage exactly how many archers in this battle, or how many cav ?  With a ALT char i dont mean the skip the fun char. And in all fairness the player have leveled up that Alt char as well. Personally i dont have much to gain by this cuz i only have a lvl 28 2h Alt, rest is skip the fun and main char. but i know alot of people have many alts. I think this would bring back people to the game.

example battle. 50 vs 50 you army have 500 horses and a overload of pikes. ofc you ask for Cav players and pikers. with this implemented i think we could even see specialized armys.

Thats all i have time to write now, il get back laters... i am at work

[dodnet]

Thats all i have time to write now, il get back laters... i am at work

Dammit, do something useful at work! I'm at work too, btw 

[Andswaru]

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After playing Strategus from the start there is a very big wishlist for what i would like to implement into strategus.
This is just suggestions feel free to discuss or criticize.

1. Big battles is no longer happening. First thing i would like to change is the battle time for strat battles. They have to extend them longer so its possible to attack maybe with 3k troops or so. Today the timer is to important and is destroying many attempts on tactics, or limit the tactics that can be used. 

2. Reinforcement timer: I would like the reinforcement timer to until 2 hour before the battle. For both attacker and defender.

Why ? Well tactics can then be used on the map. And that the walking now are really slow so the 2h/5h rule thats is now, is practically not happening due to the long travel times.

3. Reinforcement/Support option: I would like to see a support option when you are close to a battle that still have reinforcement timer.

Why ? Would really help all the small factions that they to feel important. If you link to a made up real life looking world and you have a army next to a battle. The you have the option to support eight er part. It would bring tactics and movement tactics within the map. As well many different tactics when it comes to defense or attacker. And the fact that a small clan can for himself support larger clans in there efforts to rule Calradia. Think of it Drz attacking a Merc and then Olwen came along with 1400 troops or so .Who would he support or would he walk away . It would bring excitement i believe.

4. Something that's annoyed me is that there is no link with strat and cRPG ladder for information. Why cant u when looking at a fief get ur info about what clan owner is in and such. i would like to see it easier.

5. Alt characters. probably this idea have been mentioned for a long time and i was agreeing with the Devs that no Alts should be used in Strat battles. until now.
After i came back i see a lot of changes, armory and ladder for one. Basically now it don't mean anything that u are playing with your Alt char instead of main. but implementing that you can fight (choose char) when applying for battles would be nice. The main reason is that it would bring FUN into strategus for the players.

yeah FUN why ? think about tactics. example. So in a strat battle you need 10 % ranged or 20 % or whatever but think of the possibility if you can manage exactly how many archers in this battle, or how many cav ?  With a ALT char i dont mean the skip the fun char. And in all fairness the player have leveled up that Alt char as well. Personally i dont have much to gain by this cuz i only have a lvl 28 2h Alt, rest is skip the fun and main char. but i know alot of people have many alts. I think this would bring back people to the game.

example battle. 50 vs 50 you army have 500 horses and a overload of pikes. ofc you ask for Cav players and pikers. with this implemented i think we could even see specialized armys.

Thats all i have time to write now, il get back laters... i am at work

1. 90 Minutes is long enough I dont want to play any battles lasting more than that to be honest. My eyes need a rest too sometimes. Use waves of armies if the timer is not big enough for you take your objective.

2. I can cross a large portion of the map in 22hours nearly, it forces you to think tactically now with the 2hr and 5hr time periods, longer makes it more of a attack while everyone is sleeping with 1200 horses and 400 men we can always reinforce later with our real army. Also with a longer reinforce system you could just stack troops in 1 central point and easily defend your whole territory with 1 large reserve army.

3. Dont we have this now?

4. Im all for this idea, would be a really decent improvement if the Strat ladder was available in the same format as the crpg ladder.

5. Hmm Im for and against this idea, I think been forced to use your main in strat keeps alot of people respecing and retiring their mains... however on a personal point of view i would like to play 2handed hero sometimes in strat instead of a shielder.

[Gingerpussy]

I understand that some people don't want those big battles for two hours or more.
But for me that's the real epic ones. The problem lies that the timer decide what to do now, atleast need some more time for each battle.
Adjusted by size up to a max. a 1k vs 1k is okey atm, but a 2k vs 1k is not. And those who think 2 hours is to much have lots of smaller battles to fight if they wish.


Second on that to use Alts now, most of Mercs does not retire now but farm there alts for looms. And with the armory a alt and main is basically the same cuz at-least us mercs have so many her-loomed items we can equip all alt with +3. So from cRPG there is no differences.
 

[Garem]

1. This is happening, and the Nord is right. 90 minutes, 1000 troops, that's plenty big.

2. & 3. Meh. Less important, but not a bad idea either.

4. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Links and info. Homogenize the Battle page.

5. The tricky one. I can say this much about the NA side- there are less available players. This makes tactical planning difficult, and you never know who you're going to get to support your battles. Hell, there were 100 players in the recent Reyvadin siege. How many archers? About 4-6 or so, total. In a SIEGE. That's kind of crazy if you ask me... but everyone on NA plays 2H'ers and Polearms, so there's not much of an option for folks. Part of it is a cultural problem, as playing archers is some strangely unforgivable sin (because they always top scoreboards and clutch rounds? /sarc). But part of it is that people are trapped playing main characters for no particular reason.

Maybe there's another option- giving people TWO main characters.

[Osiris]

if battles start lasting for 3 hours then count me out of strat (because i wont be able to fight in battles anyway whats the point of playing )

[Gingerpussy]

I need to get that having a 3k army in this strategus is very expensive, so its not like something you would see every day or every weekend for that mather. One clan might  have one force like this for a castle attack or town.
 

So even if implemented at least a little bit longer battles the normal player would not see those so many times. but the option to have the probability is good.

Today's Strat you need 1k armies or a bit more and you need 3 or more armies at 1 to 1.5 to take a castle or town. This is forcing all to have multiple attacks on same fief in order to take it. Its silly and u get booted somewhere in the map after battle, because you might have to loose 1 to 3 armies to take the castle.

[Andswaru]

You can have single "effective" army around the 2000 troop number. You will loose all tickets inside the 90 minute marker.

[serr]

No, timer and multiple 1500 troops attacks are good, but looting system needs changes. At least make it like in 3rd strat, so winner gets unused gear from loser and what he looted on battlefield. This 50% of used gear system is really bad and favours defensive sitting in fiefs.

[Turboflex]

Yeah the logistics of taking castles against any kind of well sized and semi-organized faction are now quite daunting especially when they become "raid proof" with over 1000-1500 or so army inside. Very costly to wear them down with 50% of used gear going to defender "winner", all they have to do is rush in unarmed tickets (quickmarched at 4am, hard to intercept) to reinforce it and they get to keep fighting with looted gear. A large faction with 40 active members can generate 1000 tickets per day, so they can keep going by this turtle method for quite a while.

[Rebelyell]

I really love to be able to fight longer than 90 min,
but i see lot of peps that just cant do that, maybe we can split really large battels for parts?
you fight 90min and breake for some time, if some faction cant or dont want fight longer should be able to leave battelfield with some loses in eq and stuffs

[Warcat]

Maybe there's another option- giving people TWO main characters.

I want 3! You can't expect me to choose between Elder and Keeper?

As for the epic length battles. Some of the 5 hour strat 1 battles were definitely some of the most fun I've had in cRPG, but i doubt I would now have the time for any battles that long. 90 minutes is a good limit, perhaps up to 2 hours.

[Chagan_Arslan]

1. Swap randomly generated open field maps with premade open field maps. Random maps with rivers in them are always bugged, and having to play a moutain battle when armies clash is desert is plain stupid ;/

2. Change "accepting to battle" system. All people that signed up and got accepted can take part in a battle if there is still place in that team on server. If someone will need to go away during a battle someone can takes his spot or people can switch places so more people can get into that big battle they were gathering resources for. No more roll calls!!

3. Change caravan system to something like Empire total war trade routes were. You establish a trade route from fief A to fief B. You get daily income from this trade route. Bandits can sit on such trade route (line between two fiefs) and intercept that income for themselves until they are scared off or killed. (more viable bandits, more little little battles, more fun in general for people)

4. Bandit lair - can be made only by a fiefless faction and one with 20+ members, visible only from very close distance, armies can be hidden in it, starts with no PP and gets the same amount as villages. (this would add a lot of dynamic to strat, and open doors for smaller factions that couldnt grab a fief)

[Segd]

1. 90 Minutes is long enough I dont want to play any battles lasting more than that to be honest. My eyes need a rest too sometimes. Use waves of armies if the timer is not big enough for you take your objective.

Not a good option due to new loot system. You could have 2-10k army defending the fief with equip for only 1k. After fist attacker's wave(1k-1.5k tickets) you would have half of used items(with -2 modificator) which is enough to equip another 1k army. By this way you could defend the fief for enough time crafting only naked tickets till you reinforcements will arrive.
But I dissagre with Ginger too. Playing 90 min battles tires me enough now, old 2-5 hours long(Strat one, longest I remember - 7 hours) battles would make me want to suicide 
Returning goog old Multiplier for more than 1.5-2k armies would be better(with same XP multiplier  )

2)5h reinf time for def is fine now, cause even if you have an army in the targeted fief you still need to wait till the leader of the army will come online.

3)I think you could do it right now, if defender would allow transfer

4)Just like it.

5)Alts on Strat? Hell yes! I cried so much playing as a crossbowman. At first weeks nobody buys even hunting crossbows, later  they buy some cracked shit. & even after 2 months of Strat start they sometimes forget to buy arbalests or bolts.

[Warcat]

One thing I don't like is that an army that runs out of time on offense is defeated, losing everything.