Nerf Dadao or Buff Miaodao

[Korgoth]

Has anyone noticed that the Dadao is nearly exact the same Stats as the Miaodao but the Miaodao is double the Price?

Dadao: 4,020 gold     
weight 2.75
requirement 10
spd rtng 92
weapon length 115
swing damage 42, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce
Can't use on horseback

Miaodao: 8,030 gold
weight 2.75
requirement 10
spd rtng 96
weapon length 115
swing damage 40, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce
Can't use on horseback

[Belmont]

There is nothing wrong with the Miaodao, it has 4 extra speed over the Dadao for only 2 less damage.

[Prpavi]

There is nothing wrong with the Miaodao, it has 4 extra speed over the Dadao for only 2 less damage.

exactly and the mw one has 98 speed so no buffing needed here

[Sean_Drew]

exactly and the mw one has 98 speed so no buffing needed here

Right.

Gen3= 98spd 45cut

It´s a good 2h-spam weapon , with good range .... so the price is ok.

[La Makina]

I see more people using the Miaodao, I guess the speed advantage gives it an edge. Maybe the Miaodao is a bit expensive on upkeep costs though (but what is cheap nowadays?!).

Nerf what you want but do not touch my Dadao or I kill all of ya!!! 

[Korgoth]

Well it just seems stupid that the weapon that is meant to be an upgraded version of the Dadao is actually not that good compared for the price. Seriously is paying double the amount on upkeep worth a few points in speed?

[Gorath]

Seriously is paying double the amount on upkeep worth a few points in speed?

Yes.  Derp.  I'm serious.

[Siiem]

Seriously is paying double the amount on upkeep worth a few points in speed?

Compromise, they are both hideous, remove them... fix = win = profit.

[Cyclopsided]

uhm....
you don't balance based on price. I say make their prices a little closer to each other and give dadao One or two more cut damage. It is so much slower for not much of a damage increase.
I never see anyone use the dadao, while tons use the miaodao.

[Siiem]

I never see anyone use the dadao, while tons use the miaodao.

What does that tell you on the price of the miaodao.

[Sean_Drew]

Seriously is paying double the amount on upkeep worth a few points in speed?

Yes. It´s a really good high end weapon. I think Miaodao is better than Nodachi ( cost 10589 ) , cause of the higher speed. It´s really a cheap ( 8030 ) weapon. You can use good armor with it too. You can spam shielder to death with it. It´s really a cool , high end weapon. And it´s really cheap compared to the other high end weapons. I was thinking about making me a 2h/spam build with Miaodao. Fast as hell , for the damage.

[Cyclopsided]

What does that tell you on the price of the miaodao.

What do you mean? It costs more.
I don't see your point here.
I still stand by price not being a major thing and should not be considered in balance.

[Siiem]

What do you mean? It costs more.
I don't see your point here.
I still stand by price not being a major thing and should not be considered in balance.

The point was it's a good weapon so alot of people use it ergo high price compared to Dadao, because let's face it... in crpg speed kills.

Miaodao MW = Gen3= 98spd 45cut

[Sean_Drew]

What do you mean?

= Costs are not too high for the Miaodao , if so many run around with it...


Edit : Ups .... we wrote at same time i think ;-)

[Kalam]

I'm sorry, but this is fail. Miaodao doesn't need a buff.