Retribution

[Artyem]

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False, False, anddddddd False.


Never, have I ever approved trade in-game, and do I ever recollect you guys asking for trade whatsoever. Many people can tell you (ask NH) I reach out everytime that someone enters our territory unapproved before I attack them (or at least used to) and attempted to correct them. I did so in your case too, but you weren't online on steam, and I didn't bother with PMs since the site was down.

Read our Faction Hall page--Ultimately I can only give approval, and had you actually did as you said, and asked for approval, then you would have received it. There is also two fiefs that were KUTT's at the time that were open trading to public--Ulburban and Reyvadin. You bypassed both and attempted to head deeper.

Once again, I can't help your mistake, but please don't play it off as anything other than your mistake. And don't label this war (like Fallen) anything other than just personal Greed.

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P.S. I'm not mad about being ganged up on, I'm upset that many people don't have enough honor or tact to actually come out and just state that they're being Greedy and want to join the Winning Side.

Except your blatantly lying. Our merchant was attacked south of New Karindi in route to Reyvadin. Enough is enough with this discussion I will not bother talking to somebody who is just trying to save face by lying.

Our declaration stands, the war continues and once again KUTT and its leadership shows it's not above lying to try and push around a small clan.

Good day to you sir.

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Also, you may look at our declaration however you want.  There's a multitude of reasons but mainly we just want to have some fun before giant coalitions take over the game and destroy our chance of getting in on some action ever again.

[TugBoat]

I'm not sure how declaring war on a skeleton faction is fun, perhaps your definition of fun is different than mine, but I enjoy fair fights.

If we're lying , prove it or shut up please. I have an excellent reputation for honesty, in fact I piss people off with how blunt and honest I can be. If you can prove I'm telling a lie I will give you 100,000 cRPG gold.

[Artyem]

I'm not sure how declaring war on a skeleton faction is fun, perhaps your definition of fun is different than mine, but I enjoy fair fights.

How is a large 50+ man faction against a 13 man faction fair?

Of course we'd wait until you guys were kicked down a level.

[Tanken]

Except your blatantly lying. Our merchant was attacked south of New Karindi in route to Reyvadin. Enough is enough with this discussion I will not bother talking to somebody who is just trying to save face by lying.

Our declaration stands, the war continues and once again KUTT and its leadership shows it's not above lying to try and push around a small clan.

Good day to you sir.

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Also, you may look at our declaration however you want.  There's a multitude of reasons but mainly we just want to have some fun before giant coalitions take over the game and destroy our chance of getting in on some action ever again.

Please, how am I lying Arty? I have been nothing but straight forward and truthful. I can't help that you didn't get approval from me, and that you can't recollect what these fake members' names were. You should come out and have a pair of balls and just say you're doing it to be greedy and not coat it in some other shit that you think justifies any of it. Had you actually asked, and followed the protocol that no other clan EXCEPT you and Fallen have had trouble with, then you would have preserved your trade.

TL;DR Prove it.

Just tired of other clans taking any chance they can to shit on us and our quickly tarnishing reputation in an attempt to raise themselves up a little higher. Your clan included. We've been fair to everyone (except SWF, we just had to exchange blows with them and Ednos and I are pretty cool now) but even then with that confrontation the slander campaign was set against us. I swear, I feel like KUTT is a candidate running for election right now the amount of false shit that gets thrown at us and spread around and since a lot of people are against us by nature and alliance they just go along with whatever they say.

Hell, someone could come in here and declare war on us and say that the reason they're doing so is that I'm a child-molesting heroine addict ball-loving jersey-shore watching scumbag, and most people would probably believe it despite anything we say against it.

[TugBoat]

It's been established that our active strat players is closer to 15, also a ton of our resources have already been spent, and we have no method of income now that we have people marauding all our members. How do you expect a fair fight? I used to like you when I was in Dracul Arty, so did Tanken, but your behavior right now is pretty despicable and pathetic, especially towards two former members of your faction who left on good terms

[Herr_Thomas]

The day this happened I talked with applesauce, trying to figure out what was going on

He said he got permission from 2 members in game 1 month ago. This 1 month ago was well before we decided to close our borders, which would nullify all existing trade agreements unless renewed with us. Besides, they may have said that because, as stated before, our borders weren't closed so you wouldn't have even needed to talk to us to do any trading. People usually don't take 1 month to transport 100 goods, and what exactly were the origins of those goods? Another point I want to bring up is, if you wanted some good fights, I feel joining the side that is already heavily outnumbering the other is a bad choice.

Also, WOLF_GANG is declaring war on Tanken_Psyduck_KUTT for being a child-molesting heroine addict ball-loving jersey-shore watching scumbag and I have tons of proof showing that he is.

[TurmoilTom]

Also, WOLF_GANG is declaring war on Tanken_Psyduck_KUTT for being a child-molesting heroine addict ball-loving jersey-shore watching scumbag and I have tons of proof showing that he is.

Yeah, I'm with Wolf on this one.

I know for a fact that one month ago 6 children told me that Tanken molested them. I can't remember their names and I have absolutely no proof that they said this but you guys still believe me, right?

[Artyem]

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Well, I can't say you left on good terms.  Considering that I even forgot that either of you were in my clan up until a few weeks ago.  You don't talk to us, and I find it hard to take half of your leadership seriously most of the time because how much you guys troll in game and on the forums.  I don't recall you guys ever getting in TS when you were in the clan, and you jumped at the chance to leave  when the whole H thing went down.  How can you say you left on good terms when you didn't even leave a notice with anyone actually in the clan when you left.  I don't even you guys talking to me, or Deltah, or Bangor...

[Tanken]

Wolfgang brings up a good point, beside the war declaration, of our borders used to be open.


Sure, at that time if someone had granted or said it was okay, then it would most likely mean it was okay while borders were open. However, since borders were closed and as stated in the thread for diplomacy all trade agreements needed to be agreed upon again, then you, as a failed diplomat, are responsible for not keeping up on Strategus news and other clans' diplomacy.

If what you said in that sob-story thread (in which I stuck up for you guys) about people always bashing on your clan was true, then show it here. Because as Tugboat said, you're being pathetic. You're blaming us for your mistake and not just coming clean and saying what it is you truly are here for--Greed.


Also Wolfgang, bring it on bitch. I'm DTF

Well, I can't say you left on good terms.  Considering that I even forgot that either of you were in my clan up until a few weeks ago.  You don't talk to us, and I find it hard to take half of your leadership seriously most of the time because how much you guys troll in game and on the forums.  I don't recall you guys ever getting in TS when you were in the clan, and you jumped at the chance to leave  when the whole H thing went down.  How can you say you left on good terms when you didn't even leave a notice with anyone actually in the clan when you left.  I don't even you guys talking to me, or Deltah, or Bangor...

Did we just get called Trolls by DRACUL? Also, we left because you were a poor leader and you were never around. Pretty much why Haven and everyone else that was once in your clan left too with the exceptions of some others.

[TurmoilTom]

Wait, Tanken and Tug used to be in Dracul? Am I reading this right?

Goddamn. Learn a new thing every day.

I guess I'm still a new guy.

[Artyem]

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Everyone needs to re-read this thread, anything said in a spoiler is out of character.  Everything outside of a spoiler is in character.  You shouldn't be taking the non-spoiler posts so seriously.  I said that we're actually in this war for the sole fact that it may be our only opportunity to actually engage in some combat of our own.

This is the god-damned diplomacy section, you need to calm the fuck down before you get muted (again).  It's a game, not your real life engagement.

EDIT:  Tanken, you're an alright guy, but you need to go re-read the thread that you oh-so blatantly called a sob story and realize that you're a living, breathing, example of how people take this shit way to seriously.

[Tanken]

Everyone needs to re-read this thread, anything said in a spoiler is out of character.  Everything outside of a spoiler is in character.  You shouldn't be taking the non-spoiler posts so seriously.  I said that we're actually in this war for the sole fact that it may be our only opportunity to actually engage in some combat of our own.

This is the god-damned diplomacy section, you need to calm the fuck down before you get muted (again).  It's a game, not your real life engagement.

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Someone's mad. Don't be mad Arty. We're keeping this game and Diplomacy related. I'm just poking holes in your argument, as any good diplomat would do. So far you've failed to do so. Oh wait, can't take spoilers seriously 

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You're a sperg and a bad leader. That's why half your clan left you and the fact that we never did anything meaningful as a clan or in Strategus.

[Relit]

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Someone's mad. Don't be mad Arty. We're keeping this game and Diplomacy related. I'm just poking holes in your argument, as any good diplomat would do. So far you've failed to do so. Oh wait, can't take spoilers seriously 

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You're a sperg and a bad leader. That's why half your clan left you and the fact that we never did anything meaningful as a clan or in Strategus.

At the risk of being warned. Holy crap Tanken, are you serious? If hes mad, then you must be frothing at the mouth.

[Spanish]

 

Just tired of other clans taking any chance they can to shit on us and our quickly tarnishing reputation in an attempt to raise themselves up a little higher. Your clan included. We've been fair to everyone (except SWF, we just had to exchange blows with them and Ednos and I are pretty cool now) but even then with that confrontation the slander campaign was set against us. I swear, I feel like KUTT is a candidate running for election right now the amount of false shit that gets thrown at us and spread around and since a lot of people are against us by nature and alliance they just go along with whatever they say.

Hell, someone could come in here and declare war on us and say that the reason they're doing so is that I'm a child-molesting heroine addict ball-loving jersey-shore watching scumbag, and most people would probably believe it despite anything we say against it.

This is just how the forums are Tanken, post anything to stick up for your clan and get bashed by massive amounts of bullshit that's been twisted and garbled. The only people who have been really able to stop bullshit propaganda is Fallen they pull that off real well with their evil Zagush kittens. In any case you can't win except to go silent or post simple concise statements. In any case it matters little why they declare war just that they did and let's see if their Dracul enough to take on Kutt.

[Tanken]

At the risk of being warned. Holy crap Tanken, are you serious? If hes mad, then you must be frothing at the mouth.

I get warned on a daily basis for nothing. I just wanted to put something that he can't get mad at in a Spoiler. I've poked holes in every argument he's presented and In-Character he still presents this as our fault, though he's clearly been corrected but still sticks to his guns.

I didn't take this to the personal insult level--he did. I'm just poking fun at his leadership now and why we never even felt the need to give our resignation like one and a half years ago and how he still is clinging to that.