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Uninstall time?
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:53:39 pm »
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For....over 2 years, I have had ONE favorite class. Noone has ever complained it was OP, noone ever cried for it to be nerfed, but it was.
Over and over it was.

All I ever wanted was to be hybrid archer, wear my silly joke blue tunics, and kill tincans. You took my Longbow+maul, then you took my longbow+bastard sword. Then you took my WPF.

So I was unhappy but kept on, 18/18 archer gen after gen, 6 PD, 6 Ath, 6PS, 6WM, 5 IF. 101 wpf in 1handed, 135 archery. I wasnt effective in melee or at range but at least it was still my thing. I can own anyone in melee with this shit build, and shoot them too. Ask Bjord. Noone escapes the silly 1hander.

But then today I read this:

Quote from: cmpxchg8b on October 31, 2012, 04:55:18 pm
It's sort of bugged. ATH should reduce WPF, but now it also reduces PD (resulting in the "your proficiency is too low" message).


ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?

Do this and I uninstall, thats obviously not a threat, its just what I feel.

Athletics reduces WPF? SO MANY IDEAS were put forward to stop kiting and you chose this... I honestly WANT to understand, but I cannot....that isnt a solution, its a fucking joke.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 06:54:52 pm »
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Quote from: UnholyRolyPoly on December 27, 2013, 08:13:04 pm
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 06:58:17 pm »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 06:59:27 pm »
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I'm also away from cRPG until something gets done about this. The patch rendered my build unplayable, so I'll simply not play until it's playable again or I can reassign my points into something else.

See you folks when archery is viable again :)
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 06:59:58 pm »
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I share your pain man....
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 07:01:37 pm »
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Its a shame its taken this long for the devs to try an combat the lame kiting gameplay an i can understand people getting mad because they had gotten use to it or they even rage respeced to archery because of it...

But at least give it a try it might be the best choice for the future of this community
« Last Edit: October 31, 2012, 07:07:10 pm by Tzar »
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Quote from: UnholyRolyPoly on December 27, 2013, 08:13:04 pm
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 07:06:15 pm »
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its painful to say but i prefer native over crpg at the moment
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 07:06:44 pm »
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This is one of those obligatory threads that states that you'll quit the game if the changes aren't reverted, right?

Wouldn't it make sense to wait until the bug is fixed to make judgments like that?

If the change to Athletics changing WPF works the way I think it does I don't think your build will be too hurt by the patch once the bug is fixed.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 07:08:17 pm »
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boh bye
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 07:08:43 pm »
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Personal opinion, not involved with balancing.

Gotta admit, this changed hit a lot of builds that can not really retire or respec due to being high level hard.
Some people now have entirely useless builds.
Personally I do not care that much since I am slightly above 31 and don't mind scrapping it by retiring but if you are 32+ and made the "mistake" of having more than 3 or 4 ath you are fucked now.

This is an accuracy comparison at 9ath and 181 wpf.
Before patch:
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After patch:
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Both being max accuracy with the difference that now after the patch that max accuracy window is there for a split second while before it was about 1-1.5 secs.

This is a huge difference and basically made some builds entirely useless.

While I see how lots of ranged haters are happy with this, not a single one of you would like to lose hundreds of hours of gametime because something was implemented that forces you to respec/retire.
It's more like removing turning while chambering a swing or completely removing the forcefield from shields than adjusting some weapon stats or capping speed on archers.

I really hope at least the guys that got hit hard by this get a free respec, afterwards you all can prepare for way harder hitting archers and trust me there will be more whine :wink:


EDIT: fixed 181 agi for 181 wpf to hide my secret :mrgreen:
« Last Edit: October 31, 2012, 07:13:29 pm by Meow »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 07:10:34 pm »
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Quote from: TurmoilTom on October 31, 2012, 07:06:44 pm
This is one of those obligatory threads that states that you'll quit the game if the changes aren't reverted, right?

Wouldn't it make sense to wait until the bug is fixed to make judgments like that?

If the change to Athletics changing WPF works the way I think it does I don't think your build will be too hurt by the patch once the bug is fixed.

its also completely reworking game mechanics and not offering any viable alternative to change your build.  Theres a reason why pay to play games dont do this to players without offering repecs for free, because its unfair.  You are changing the RULES of the game.

Thats like your professor saying the final will be 33% of the grade, but AFTER you take it, he changes his mind and makes it worth 100%.  If you didnt take the final very seriously you'd be pretty pissed.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2012, 07:10:53 pm »
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good old cmp and his continued campaign to destroy everything good or fun in the game.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2012, 07:12:33 pm »
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Well, if you go 18/27 27ath will be like 4-4.5 agi which is: COMPLETELY BULLSHIT not enough to overun even ivani4!

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2012, 07:13:15 pm »
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The problem with free respecs is that if the devs give one to a class, everyone will complain why now and not when I was nerfed? And it would set a big precedent, making people expect free respecs in many upcoming patches, which would not be what I thought.
Also, iirc the devs said that catering for high level builds was never their intention, and this only really affects them, as low level people can just respec and not lose much.
But yes, this is a very big change for them, not sure if any other type of build has been hit this hard before...
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 07:16:18 pm »
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Quote from: Meow on October 31, 2012, 07:08:43 pm
Personal opinion, not involved with balancing.

Gotta admit, this changed hit a lot of builds that can not really retire or respec due to being high level hard.
Some people now have entirely useless builds.
Personally I do not care that much since I am slightly above 31 and don't mind scrapping it by retiring but if you are 32+ and made the "mistake" of having more than 3 or 4 ath you are fucked now.

This is an accuracy comparison at 9ath and 181 wpf.
Before patch:
(click to show/hide)

After patch:
(click to show/hide)

Both being max accuracy with the difference that now after the patch that max accuracy window is there for a split second while before it was about 1-1.5 secs.

This is a huge difference and basically made some builds entirely useless.

While I see how lots of ranged haters are happy with this, not a single one of you would like to lose hundreds of hours of gametime because something was implemented that forces you to respec/retire.
It's more like removing turning while chambering a swing or completely removing the forcefield from shields than adjusting some weapon stats or capping speed on archers.

I really hope at least the guys that got hit hard by this get a free respec, afterwards you all can prepare for way harder hitting archers and trust me there will be more whine :wink:


EDIT: fixed 181 agi for 181 wpf to hide my secret :mrgreen:

Plz..... try throwing then comeback an whine...

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Quote from: UnholyRolyPoly on December 27, 2013, 08:13:04 pm
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.
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