Out of curiosity why are people attacking the pale horsemen fiefs while their clan is blanket banned? I guess this question is more directed at chaos as i thought your clans where friends, or PH where chaos wannabes or something as they seemed desperate to associate themselves with chaos in some way. Not really surprised the FCC did this except that if they wanted to take their fiefs there really wasn't anything stopping them from doing it even when they werent banned, although its very easy to do now. And "where just holding onto it" isnt a very good excuse imo, whose going to take it no one else is around but you two. I got no problem with it, its strat, but just wondering.