An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch

[Jarlek]

Their sizes were self reported. That is not a joke.

Hehe, that would explain a lot.

[Bjord]

He's still a Marshall. +1'd anyway, maybe you need 1001 renown?

[Teeth]

I'm not destined to be a king. Kings are puppets of Marshalls anyway.

[Bjord]

That's what Kings want us to believe, Teeth. You will see, you will...

[Angantyr]

PS:I have been known to a be danish greatsword fanboy, because i love the sword and im danish irl. I had it for 2 and a half year, yet im selling mine now.... thats says something. If i dont want the danish, then who does?

I will medium tier two-handers have certainly come out on top stat-wise but I'm actually content with the nerf (and yes it's a nerf, speed is important and they were already hard-hitting); now DGS has become more exclusive, has lost some of its cheesyness in the community mind, and I can continue using a weapon particular to my forefathers that goes well with my early renaissance character theme without people thinking I'm a stat whore. I would use this sword no matter how much it was nerfed and it has been nerfed ever since it was introduced to cRPG (the by some argued current 'instastab' of great swords notwithstanding, I still haven't instastabbed even once with my balance-AGI build, except against unarmored people).

[Bjord]

You are still a lot weaker than my Longsword.

+2 speed +1 cut, versus your -2 speed +2 cut.

That is, if I get close enough to actually hit. Which I probably will with 7 athletics and such a short weapon.

[Angantyr]

Definitely, I always thoroughly enjoy wielding the longsword and bastard swords myself the longsword, bastard swords and katanas are a lot better for duelling now (and if used correctly I dare say they were slightly better even before the last nerf), DGS and GGS have been pushed even further into the support weapon category now with the claymore, SoW and GS being arguably the best trade off between speed and reach.

[Bjord]

But in the end, it is the wielder and not the weapon that decides the outcome.

Frankly I haven't tried my +3 DGS yet post-patch, but I doubt it's as bad as some people (GTX... ) make it out.

[Riddaren]

But in the end, it is the wielder and not the weapon that decides the outcome.

Frankly I haven't tried my +3 DGS yet post-patch, but I doubt it's as bad as some people (GTX... ) make it out.

It's still the longest 2H (besides flamberge which is in a category of it's own).
High cut damage and pierce damage.

In battle, I believe the GGS and DGS are still better than any of the shorter 2H's.
But not in duels, of course.

[Angantyr]

But DGS nerf aside, I've really become fond of the Long Iron Mace, knockdown is so much fun when you're not the one sprawled on the floor ;)

Anyway, the change is pretty evident on the servers; much more 2h variety now, it's a blessing I think.

Now nerf some of the most popular polearms too

[Riddaren]

But DGS nerf aside, I've really become fond of the Long Iron Mace, knockdown is so much fun when you're not the one sprawled on the floor ;)

Anyway, the change is pretty evident on the servers; much more 2h variety now, it's a blessing I think.

Now nerf some of the most popular polearms too

Which polearms would that be?

There is no doubt what polearm is the most "op" right now, since the nerf of heavy lance.
It is the lance which does 5 more damage than the heavy lance. This really makes lance a better choice now.
And it is obvious when you look at the marketplace.

[Osiris]

no glaive is most op



what would be really nice is giving halfswording 2h wpf so its actually somewhat usefull with a greatsword

[Frankysan]

But in the end, it is the wielder and not the weapon that decides the outcome.

Frankly I haven't tried my +3 DGS yet post-patch, but I doubt it's as bad as some people (GTX... ) make it out.

the day i gave you a +1, i'm shocked

a note: as vagabond said, because of the tendency of 2h heroes to go deep into agiwhoring, and even more with the change of the wpf curve, you will soon realize this is more of a buff...

[_GTX_]

Which polearms would that be?

There is no doubt what polearm is the most "op" right now, since the nerf of heavy lance.
It is the lance which does 5 more damage than the heavy lance. This really makes lance a better choice now.
And it is obvious when you look at the marketplace.

I think he meant some of the other polearms, live the glaive, which didnt get hit at all. It rly needs a nerf, specialy with the other long weapons in 2h getting nerfed. But yeah u might be right about the lances aswell, but i havent rly checked what happened with them, so i wont comment on that.

[Osiris]

German seemed fine on siege. The pierce on half sword mode would be nice in tight corridors if it didnt go so slow with no wpf