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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2012, 05:36:39 pm »
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Speed is a pretty meaningless stat under most circumstances, especially for 2h (since you can hiltslash on both side swing directions rather than wait for the animation to connect). Even a flamberge can maintain the block/attack turn-based paradigm when fighting a katana user. The only time speed really matters is when you and your opponent attack each other at the same time, which is a gamble regardless.

Those greatswords have over 140cm reach on side swings; no one that can outreach you swings faster than you anyway (unless you are worried about the 18blunt on a war spear sideswing).

Also, animation delay is a much bigger influence than weapon speed. In a situation where I need to hit fast as a 1h user, I'd rather left swing with a military hammer (94 speed) than right swing with a Liuyedao (102 speed), because the left swing will always connect first.

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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2012, 05:46:18 pm »
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Maybe you should let someone else play with your sword, or play with someone else's.

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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2012, 05:50:22 pm »
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yes i want the Dutch Great Sword plz  8-)
Considering what I know of the Dutchmen, this is the stats I would give it:
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2012, 05:58:43 pm »
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2012, 06:11:21 pm »
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I have not tried out this new version yet, but, after reading these posts, I must say that the "nerf" is very logical, especially now that "polestagger" is gone.

Gigantic swords should logically be slower than the shorter swords or polearms.

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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2012, 06:14:36 pm »
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You mean, everything should be faster
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2012, 06:18:18 pm »
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Dutch Greatsword
weight: 5 (they are all fat bastards)
difficulty: 6 (all the weed makes them easy to be around/use)
speed rating: 80 (but sadly it also makes them a bit slow)
thrust damage: 20 pierce (stick them with the pointy end is something they're not familiar with)
swing damage: 30 (neither are they very sharp)
slots: 2
weapon length: 200 (because, well, you know what I'm talking about!)



Because they are trying to compensate their small


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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2012, 06:26:14 pm »
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Not sure about the Danish, but I like the new German. It's like an awlpike that has sideswings, as well as a higher damage overhead. Now when I'm playing 2h, I take a German for general battle play, and an HBS for any 1v1 fights that show up. The SoW and GS are both decent alternatives for the old Danish.

Still sad that 1h stabs remain heavily nerfed compared to the pre-spin patch, though. All somebody has to do to force a glance is back up and strafe to the side (assuming they have decent ath). Before, you could consistently land solid hits no matter how your opponent moved.
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2012, 06:56:14 pm »
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Not sure about the Danish, but I like the new German.
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2012, 07:24:15 pm »
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It was actually meant the other way.

All the stats and all the commentary I wrote was bad insulting towards them, but it doesn't matter because the hilariously long "reach" of the Dutchmen :D
If you don't know, the Dutch have the largest average penis size in Europe.
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2012, 07:30:10 pm »
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It was actually meant the other way.

All the stats and all the commentary I wrote was bad insulting towards them, but it doesn't matter because the hilariously long "reach" of the Dutchmen :D
If you don't know, the Dutch have the largest average penis size in Europe.


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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2012, 07:33:53 pm »
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2012, 07:43:35 pm »
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2012, 07:49:08 pm »
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is it just me or did agi 2h builds got buffed due to the patch?

they dont needed the  +2 speed  but gained dmg so they dont glance at all anymore and  pull out super huge dmg witht he speed bonus?
just went on duel and my build looks completely useless now. ( balanced build) i make less dmg most of the time then agi 2h with 2 less or more ps turn out more dmg. just sometimes i turn out huge dmg but thats the random damage calculator. the increased dmg on gs buffed  agi2h in my opinion.
nerfed are the balanced 2 builds. i deal most of the time less dmg then a agi build im ofc  slower and i can maybe take 1 more hit.

idk how it is about pure str builds but agi 2h seem to be the way to go after patch.

this is not a cry post i think 2h deserved a nerf and maybe not that way but well...
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Re: An overview of 2h swords pre and post patch
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2012, 07:52:48 pm »
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France? Big dick size? Yeah good joke  :lol:
Their sizes were self reported. That is not a joke.