I guess since I went in-character for the other post, I'll go somewhat out of character for this one.
We've been extremely fair to Fallen, and have held them in high respect. Never was our attacks made to disregard their relationships with us.
The first offense came when AdalWulf of HRE took supplies, gold, and goods from a fief and then attempted to run. He was caught, held captive, and later released but we retrieved what we had been robbed of.
The second offense came when members of Fallen failed to adhere to our trade policy. It clearly states that they are able to trade, but there must be warning ahead of time. We reached out to them for nearly 4 hours with no response since their Strategus Diplomacy is split between EU and NA and none of the NA members with a title to do anything about it would reply (ahem, Tears.) So I gave the order to attack, which is clearly stated in our faction page, despite diplomacy. Even Hospitallers and Wolves must adhere to the same rules. No one is special and no one is excused.
When we took out the "Horse Thief" we held him captive in our fief, and held some 980 goods. I could not relay information to Doom fast enough since he is EU and he cashed some 100 the next morning, but I told him not to cash more. In haste for the war with FCC, he cashed I believe 200-300 more, to which Garem was nearby to come and reclaim the goods, which we had kindly held since many members of their leadership had said it was a mistake on their part that he came there and that he was new blah blah blah.
So, they got back like maybe 680ish goods of the 980 ish we got. And as compensation I said that they could cash out what goods Garem was currently carrying in Yruma (Mind you, only 5% tax) and that we would also send them 300 of our goods in the near future to be kind. This seemed to be fine. All was dandy. I also approach Fallen about giving them Ulburban yesterday once we are able to reclaim it since it is too far out of our domain to tend to and that was a major reason it fell. No response was given on that, and the only thing I asked in return was their safe passage of a trader.
This is what we get today. Whether it is Drama, or people just being greedy, it's kind of silly and done so on false-pretense. We have been fair, and when we have made mistakes or a mistake was made by them, we've sought to correct it. Not once have we wronged them in any means that was detrimental, and we always stood true to our word, not to mention we acted as mercenaries for their armies even against greater friends such as Chaos strictly because we were allies of sorts. Now this is what we are repaid with.
Sorry for the long post, wanted to put it out there.
