NA Coalition Diplomacy Update

[Tears of Destiny]

If you guys are being "employed" to attack someone, you should list your employer as allied and whoever your being paid to attack as an enemy.

I'll keep that in mind for future employment that involves more then mere roster support or raiding lone caravans out in the middle of nowhere, but as of right now we don't have an enemy.    If someone hires us for actual warfare and actual attacks besides a single caravan for a one-time gig then I shall do so 

[RamsesXXIIX]

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Every time I watch Smoothrichs posts I get astonished by the insane amount of BS.

Time and time again you've been blatantly lying about the Fallen Brigade, in fact I doubt I've even seen a shred of truth in a single post from you about us. Your attempts to give us a bad reputations is nothing but pathetic - everyone knows you have a grudge with us (Although we wouldn't have one with you, if you didn't shittalk us everywhere and lie about us constantly) and everyone knows you trashtalk us whenever you have the chance.

To anyone else reading: Remember, when Smoothrich talks about Fallen, its 100% lies every time. Thank you for ignoring the liar.

[jtobiasm]

I guess smoothrich doesn't understand the communication bit or first come first served.
Underlined just for you smoothrich.

MERCENARIES:
The NA Coalition freely and openly Mercs for anyone who approaches us in a friendly and reasonable fashion.

MERCENARIES:
There is no conspiracy here, it is a first-come-first-serve basis that favors those factions friendly enough to visit our TS regularly or contact us in other ways.

[Smoothrich]

Your thread has nothing about going out of your way across the map to attack caravans in neutral territory for the sake of other clans, its just about merc agreements.  No one really cares about mercing, but you can't pretend to be a neutral party in the war.  You're working for/with Hospitallers, no need to dress it up in funny talks.

[Blackzilla]

Tobias, thing about your mercing crap is I've asked a day in advance for you guys to merc for Hero party, only to be told you are not mercing for our side in this war. So you might wanna fix that mercing description.

[Goretooth]

It's almost like smoothrich is demanding fallen merc for hero_party against hosp. yet i only asked nicely and they show up 

[Muki]

Fallen archers are the best archers :D

[Tydeus]

If you guys are being "employed" to attack someone, you should list your employer as allied and whoever your being paid to attack as an enemy.

You don't get to say you're "neutral" with a faction after attacking them simply because you were paid as a mercenary to do so. That makes you a temporary ally of Hosps at the very least. When the attack is on neutral territory though, that's as close to a declaration of war as you can get. Diplomacy isn't so convenient. I shouldn't be surprised though, you are called the "Naive" for a reason. In strat too, for dfc's short existence we mostly merc'ed for lljk both in their battles and with our own troops. No one looked at us as being anything other than an lljk ally while we did so because doing anything else, would be absolutely ridiculous.

"We currently have a vested interest in your destruction and have previously attacked you to fulfill a contract as mercenaries to take out your caravan, but we're still neutral with you" Yeah, right...

[Garem]

Tobias, thing about your mercing crap is I've asked a day in advance for you guys to merc for Hero party, only to be told you are not mercing for our side in this war. So you might wanna fix that mercing description.

???

We talked for quite some time before the battle during the confusion (I don't deal with our merc contracts), Blackzilla. Why didn't you mention this at a time when this was relevant?

I've never been asked by hero_party to merc. I don't disfavor gaining XP at no cost. Why would I have turned that down?

As Joe Biden would say, this is "a bunch of stuff".

[Tydeus]

Hmm...

Maybe I missed the post, but isn't this the thread that first publicly stated the "NA Coalition" as a merc group? If that is indeed the case, you can't really even argue that anything you've done in the past was that of a merc group. You're not mercing if you're only available to one faction. Furthermore, I would find it quite absurd that this group would expect to be treated as mercenaries for actions prior to becoming a merc group.

Your actions are that of a vassal, not of a merc group, regardless of what you might actually be. I suggest keeping that in mind.

[Tears of Destiny]

You're not mercing if you're only available to one faction

I agree, and lucky for us we are not available to only one group and never were exclusive. I'm not entirely sure what Blackzilla was told (or thinks he heard) but we certainly are not exclusive, and he should make sure that he only talks to officers in the future and not normal members who may be misinformed or trolling. 


We are currently mainly doing our own thing right now, and were working for multiple factions at once not "one exclusively." Hero_Party was rejected at that specific moment only due to a conflict of interest.


I'm not sure who told you that we were only available for Hospitaller, considered we did jobs or favors for others too, heh. My apologies that a few of our members apparently trolled you witless. If you would like to ask for our roster support or what-have-you, feel free to contact an officer (zero responsibility if you don't our member are allowed their opinions    Free country and all that god bless NA fuck yeah) and we'll sign up if we like what we hear and there is no conflict of interest! <3

Your actions are that of a vassal, not of a merc group, regardless of what you might actually be. I suggest keeping that in mind.

TIL that Vassals acceptable actions include attacking a former employer's vassals, arguing with them, unarthorized S&D usage and a few other violent acts. Man, I don't know what vassals you are used to but I suggest you raise higher standards.

[Muki]

You're not mercing if you're only available to one faction.

They been mercing for me too... But my faction not big enough to cause drama :c

[Tears of Destiny]

They been mercing for me too... But my faction not big enough to cause drama :c

We merc for many people at once (5 iirc), it just seems that poor Blackzilla was trolled senseless or really did not hear correctly (Funny thing is Not a single officer remembers speaking to him) and that Hero_Party is mighty offended... And has weird standards for vassals.


I need to keep in mind that in the future, some people may take rejection so harshly and think because we refuse one job we are exclusive for life 

[Blackzilla]

???

We talked for quite some time before the battle during the confusion (I don't deal with our merc contracts), Blackzilla. Why didn't you mention this at a time when this was relevant?

I've never been asked by hero_party to merc. I don't disfavor gaining XP at no cost. Why would I have turned that down?

As Joe Biden would say, this is "a bunch of stuff".

When i came into Ts and ask for mercs, and was rejected and told that they were not mercing for hero party in this war. I went back to Hero party and repeated what I was told, thus us never coming back for mercs.

[Garem]

When i came into Ts and ask for mercs, and was rejected and told that they were not mercing for hero party in this war. I went back to Hero party and repeated what I was told, thus us never coming back for mercs.

And who said this? The only two people who are approved to choose who will receive our help are Daemon and Tears, and on top of that only Oohillac and I are allowed to confirm or deny that we will do such (and personally, I only deal with trading so I normally wouldn't know anyways). We have structure in the Fallen.

Otherwise, what you heard was the personal statement "I don't want to fight for Smoothrich" for which I don't blame them. I'm not sure why you choose to do so, either. There are plenty of well-led clans out there.