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Which is harder to play, Strength or Agility builds?

Strength Builds
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Agility Builds
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2012, 10:20:34 pm »
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Ever tried 9/30? Try 9/30 then come back and say that agi builds are easy.

I have a 3/36 character (1ps 12at 12wm).
If I play my best I top the scoreboard with it.

If I go 36/3 I will eventually end up being ganked due to my low speed which makes it:
- impossible to keep up with the team
- impossible to fight outnumbered

It's not easy to play full agility. Sometimes, you just die, really quick.
But the other times you stay alive until the end of a round.

That's not really the case with a strength build.
You usually get killed somewhere in the middle of a round.

With that said, an agility build atleast gives you the possibility to dominate totally.
You can kill 10 guys on your own being the last on your team. That is not the case with a strength build.



Furthermore, but that is just my personal opinion, it's so much more fun being fast than slow.
36/3 is one of the most boring builds I've played.

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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2012, 10:27:23 pm »
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Ever tried 9/30? Try 9/30 then come back and say that agi builds are easy.

I'm 9/30 and its hard. I can hit an str build in armor 6-9 times in a row without them dying, but they can one shot me.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2012, 10:33:39 pm »
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This again eh?

I actually agree with Digglez in a way here...just decouple Strength and HP, the massive HP gain from strength alone is the only thing that bothers me really.  Either make it a 3 Stat system or take the 1HP gain off of strength and have IF give you 3 or something. 

I'm 22/21 so.....im about as balanced as you get lol.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2012, 10:35:32 pm »
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Name ONE very good player, who performs better in MOST situations with a strength build than with an agile build.


Allers or Rhaelys or Miley to name just a few, or even Tydeus (I'm sorry Tydeus but you were more scary back when you STR/Armor crutched with the 'dao and 27/12).


Sad thing is, with teamwork you need Agi less and less.


Then again, I'm a 24/18 (used to be 24/21 before I respeced) so whatevs.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2012, 11:01:29 pm »
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I'm pretty sure Miley is 21/21. I would not call that a strength build.

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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2012, 11:24:57 pm »
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2012, 11:59:11 pm »
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If I go 36/3 I will eventually end up being ganked due to my low speed which makes it:
- impossible to keep up with the team
- impossible to fight outnumbered

You can kill 10 guys on your own being the last on your team. That is not the case with a strength build.[/b]

I beg to differ. I kill many oftentimes when I'm the last on team. And I prefer fighting multiple enemies at once, and I usually come out unscathed when I do so.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2012, 12:07:54 am »
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Haha, I'm so bad, I'm forced to crutch on my 30 strength and heavy plate to kill people. I probably could pull off an agility build, but I'm sure I do better as strength my old friend.

In my book, strength builds are easier than agility
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2012, 12:17:11 am »
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I have only 18 STR, but then again, my horse takes care of the rest.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2012, 12:28:18 am »
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But once you become really good at this game:

- You have almost full awareness
- You can block flawlessly
- You master chambering
- You master kicking

Use an agile build with lots of athletics and you are bascially immune to melee damage.
With the high athletics and good awareness you can dodge projectiles pretty damn good as well.
Add a shield and you are invulnerable.

Name ONE very good player, who performs better in MOST situations with a strength build than with an agile build.

For example: 27/12 instead of 12/27.
I haven't seen anyone yet and I've played this game for 1,5 years.

Yes, vs noobs a strength build might be better, but I'm talking about veterans vs veterans here.
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2012, 01:02:36 am »
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2012, 01:03:15 am »
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Nothing more obnoxious than fighting someone that isn't clueless about this game with a STR build. Yeah sure you can kill boatloads of people that don't block your swings and make a lot of duelling errors yourself. That doesn't change the fact good players will either avoid you, either take you down, because even though you hurt a lot when your attacks are successfull, they aren't bound to be successfull, and it's agility that matters when you want to get your hits in.

Then again, agility is freedom, and to utilize this freedom to the fullest extent requires experience playing the game. Much more so than strength does.

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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2012, 01:28:44 am »
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2012, 02:09:45 am »
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Re: Strength Builds
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2012, 02:52:15 am »
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^this is old news but...

str builds have many weakness' but will save your ass if you have to move as a unit.

Team hits and projectiles while fighting as a blob or regiment are inevitable and agility builds cant take that type of punishment.



I see only a few fundamental foot work styles in warband (some people are unique).

* Received damage minimization. Guys that move in a way that limits the damage you can do and causes you to bounce more often.

* Lunging. Stepping back and forth to get speed bonus and stay out of enemy reach (weak vs kicks) (common with stabbing weapons)

* Twisting. Making it difficult for your opponent to block and attack.  (common 1H technique)

*Damage Maximization Staying at highest damage reach for you. You deal the most damage but are at risk of being in you opponents optimum range as well. You are likely to be in trouble against an opponent who has a longer weapon.



Of course we all use a combination of this techniques we will always push towards one over the others. The best build for us personally is dictated by how we use our feet more than our mouse buttons. Of course the weapons and speed of our opponents can not be neglected either.
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