Astralis vs. Hospitaller battles (attacking your own fiefs)

[cmp]

I would like to remind Astralis, Hospitallers and everyone else that attacking your own/your allies' fiefs in order to prevent them from being attacked by enemies is considered heavy exploiting.
Please cancel the attacks as soon as possible or we will be forced to take action. This is your first and last warning.

[Rhekimos]

This is so exploitable, why is it still in the game?

[Lt_Anders]

I would like to remind Astralis, Hospitallers and everyone else that attacking your own/your allies' fiefs in order to prevent them from being attacked by enemies is considered heavy exploiting.
Please cancel the attacks as soon as possible or we will be forced to take action. This is your first and last warning.

Astralis was supposed to be taking them over as payment for Tulga from Hosp or some such like that. Astralis gets the desert fiefs while Hosp got TULGA. You might wanna check your facts about that.

OFC Devestator was a little wtf yesterday in our TS cause of the attacks and (wasn't?) told about the trade deal. Peppo/Valdian gave them the go ahead.

All overheard cause I'm IN TS like all the time.

[oprah_winfrey]

Looks like they are trading land, since astralis has two other fiefs right in that area. HOWEVER, I hope that isn't the case, because I want to see the dark force in strat 4.

[Mayzer]

Yeah CMP, I think it's just a fief transfer.

As of right now, you can't transfer fief's between clans. Maybe some sort of system should be implemented?

[Lt_Anders]

Yeah CMP, I think it's just a fief transfer.

As of right now, you can't transfer fief's between clans. Maybe some sort of system should be implemented?

Someone must have reported it as a "THEY PREVENTING US FROM ATTACKING" on Hosp Enemy side. But I know the astralis guys are attacking to get the fief as part of a transfer.

I know Devestator was in a tizzy yesterday cause he didn't realize the transfer went down today and wanted the attacks called off. He and arrows had a long chat last night about it(causing me to lose my x5 bastards). But as I'm not astralis so I'm not privy to deals they make, but I over hear them all the time since I'm a Server Admin on their TS.

[CrazyCracka420]

It's not to prevent being attacked, the plan was to give Unriya and Tazjunat to Astralis the whole time...

[Havoco]

fief transfer

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Why aren't Hospitallers taking Tulga then? Why did Astralis go forward with the attacks at exactly that time? Nice try.
But let's say I believe you (which I don't, for the record); have the Astralis guys join your clan and use the fief transfer function. I still expect the attacks to be called off.

[Lt_Anders]

Why aren't Hospitallers taking Tulga then? Why did Astralis go forward with the attacks at exactly that time? Nice try.
But let's say I believe you (which I don't, for the record); have the Astralis guys join your clan and use the fief transfer function. I still expect the attacks to be called off.

because they haven't reached it yet....

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The little black dot(next to white) there is adyren right next to tulga. He has 0 crates and some gear and army.
I've literally been in TULGA for 1 day now(selling good) and this is the first Hosp group to actually get near it.

[CrazyCracka420]

Why aren't Hospitallers taking Tulga then? Why did Astralis go forward with the attacks at exactly that time? Nice try.
But let's say I believe you (which I don't, for the record); have the Astralis guys join your clan and use the fief transfer function. I still expect the attacks to be called off.

Because Jordach and Nichols are nowhere near the fiefs?  We and other factions have transferred fiefs by having the people attack it all the time since strat 4 has started...we will be taking Tulga, Aderyn is nearby, but is going to have to attack an intruder in the steppes which is more of a priority than attacking Tulga to initiate the transfer.

We are getting Tulga out of deal for giving up the two villages in the desert.

And it doesn't really matter if you believe us or not.  Them's the facts.  And Astralis isn't attacking their own fief, they're attacking our fief to initiate a transfer...we (the Hospitallers) don't give a shit about the desert, and we never planned on holding territory there.

[oprah_winfrey]

Because Jordach and Nichols are nowhere near the fiefs?  We and other factions have transferred fiefs by having the people attack it all the time since strat 4 has started...we will be taking Tulga, Aderyn is nearby, but is going to have to attack an intruder in the steppes which is more of a priority than attacking Tulga to initiate the transfer.

We are getting Tulga out of deal for giving up the two villages in the desert.

And it doesn't really matter if you believe us or not.  Them's the facts.  And Astralis isn't attacking their own fief, they're attacking our fief to initiate a transfer...we (the Hospitallers) don't give a shit about the desert, and we never planned on holding territory there.

Please cancel the attacks as soon as possible or we will be forced to take action. This is your first and last warning.

Seems to me like it does matter if cmp believes you or not...

[Braeden]

Because Jordach and Nichols are nowhere near the fiefs? 

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[Lt_Anders]

Seems to me like it does matter if cmp believes you or not...

Such a poor attitude from a developer.

hahaha! Jordach is there. still nichols got Teleported after the loss of his battle so he can't be near his fief.
At least i think. I'm sure i fought against Nichols army(as a merc) and he lost so he should have gotten warped somewhere.

[CrazyCracka420]

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Well scratch that...then if Jordach is there, they should have had him transfer to them by one or the other joining the same faction...

Can't say why it was done differently (I wasn't there yesterday), but I'd assume because Jordach hasn't been around in teamspeak for a week or more.

I personally don't care one way or another, getting very disenfranchised with strategus bugs not being fixed, and the issue with retreating needs to be straightened out.  How can an attacker in a siege "retreat" and lose 100% of the men, but not gear?  It's not like you would surrender when you're attacking a castle and run out of ladders, you'd turn your army around and head back home.

Astralis may be trying to reinforce the village before their battle happens, but the Hospitaller's aren't sending reinforcements, so the theory that we did this to delay an attack is flawed (since we have no reinforcements coming).  Good thing in order to defend ourselves, I had to publicly state valuable tactical information.