Who is really the greatest european nation?

[Teeth]

Technically there was also one in Germany built a few years before by some guy by the name of: Johannes Gutenberg but the name printing press and the first public printing press both came from William Caxton, so you could say they were invented in both countries

No Caxton did not copy Germany, he was not around at the time, he was in Asia collecting the materials for the plans for the printing press he had already prepared

Bullshit, Caxton travelled to Germany, witnessed their printing and was impressed. Brought it to Britain and was the first English printer. Johannes Gutenberg, invented book printing, simple as that. Regardless you seem to be a nationalistic retard so far, so I'm probably wasting time.

You say The British would just swim back to their island... well follow them. That is why we had the greatest navy, so nobody could invade us. But yes i see your point. And you say we use European gunpowder and steel, we are part of Europe, we invented printing press, iron cannon, we supplied romans with iron for gladius, we invented the English longbow, one of the most powerful weapons on the battle field, last time we were invaded was 1066, you were invaded in the 20th century, we do not go back to "our island" because of cowardice, we go there because it is our home, we fight for the very soil that lies beneath our feet because we don't have land on mainland Europe... i rest my case

I can be a nationalistic retard too. All your flagships are belong to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway

[Ubereem]

Italy cause they are the best and have bigger penis than all you.

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[Templar_Skipper]

Bullshit, Caxton travelled to Germany, witnessed their printing and was impressed. Brought it to Britain and was the first English printer. Johannes Gutenberg, invented book printing, simple as that.

Thats what i said, except he didn't go to Germany that has been specifically made clear by historians. And nice wikipedia article, the Dutch beat us in a battle, yet somehow the British retained naval dominance and had the worlds largest empire. Anyway you wanna go on about decisive victories, hahahaha agincourt xD (hehehe dumb French peasants). But no im only being patriotic so don't take any of this to offensively.

I chose agincourt because the result is almost laughable.

[Templar_Skipper]

I can be a nationalistic retard too. All your flagships are belong to us.

Are you sure about that, the greatest naval vessel that ever lived is in Portsmouth historic dockyard right now?

[LordBerenger]

Are you sure about that, the greatest naval vessel that ever lived is in Portsmouth historic dockyard right now?

Spanish Armada > Britland Empire Navy.

GET SOME!

[Teeth]

And nice wikipedia article, the Dutch beat us in a battle, yet somehow the British retained naval dominance and had the worlds largest empire.

Completely wrong, before the battle of Medway the Dutch were the greatest naval power, that war of which that battle was a part, was fought to end the Dutch naval dominance and failed. Dutch naval dominance lasted for another 80 years after that war. The British did not have the largest empire at all at that time.

And stop that bullshit about Caxton, Gutenberg invented his press atleast 20 years before Caxton even printed a book.

Are you sure about that, the greatest naval vessel that ever lived is in Portsmouth historic dockyard right now?

Irrelevant you are talking about the flagship of a completely different time. The Dutch took the flagship of the British empire right out of their own harbour, which is pretty humiliating for a maritime power. Besides, the greatest naval vessel ever is probably this

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Talking with a nationalistic retard is like talking to a wall, jeez.

[Overdriven]

Haha yeah I'm very pro-British but 1667 is a little early to really consider the British Empire as large. Even by the early 1700's it was only just beginning to take form.

Mind you I will agree that the Victory is the greatest warship ever built but that truly is out of nationalistic pride and because I have no interest in modern warships.

[Osiris]

hard to say really HMS Dreadnought was a pretty badass ship that made everything else near obsolete it really comes down to what types of ship you prefer

[Arathian]

well...I consider Imperial Germany the peak of civilization...so I will say Germany.

I am still butthurt imperial Germany didn't last 1000 years.

[Firebrand]

Russia was biggest Empire in Europe, noone could capture it no matter how they've tried.  Russia saved Europe and whole world from chocolate chip cookies slavery, nailed einstein in his lair! Nothing can compare with this!

My vote for Mother Russia.

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Russia saved Europe and whole world from chocolate chip cookies slavery, nailed einstein in his lair! Nothing can compare with this!

Only to replace it with their own, and only because they were forced to.

[Firebrand]

Only to replace it with their own, and only because they were forced to.

Well no matter if Russia was  forced to defend, matter that Russia broke neck chocolate chip cookie Germany - most powerful empire in Europe and probably in whole world, saved Europe from brown terror, from concentration camps, from slavery. That was last stand battle - human civilization vs chordes of chaos and destruction. Noone knows where could be human race if einstein would win!
 And you can't compare chocolate chip cookie Germany terror with Soviet Union. Don't let western stupid propaganda wash your brain about that shit!

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And you can't compare chocolate chip cookie Germany terror with Soviet Union. Don't let western stupid propaganda wash your brain about that shit!

Are... are you serious about that?

[Firebrand]

Are... are you serious about that?

Yes i am. Nothing more than usa propaganda makes people's opinion about Russia.

[[ptx]]

You do know you are talking to a latvian here. It is not USA propaganda, that slaughtered millions upon millions of people.

Think carefully, before you write anything else, flaming ignorance is very offensive.