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Shield on back
« on: April 13, 2011, 11:50:30 pm »
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So I've heard that having a shield on your back reduces ranged damage by 50% if you get hit in the back.

Does this also apply to melee hits to the back?

And does this work with all shields?

I'm wondering because if this is true my full str 2 hander could run around with an arena shield strapped to the back of his plate armor and be practically immune to ranged back hits.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 12:03:32 am »
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first off you go a lot slower with shield on back
it was never a question of damage reduction, shields blocked arrows entirely. but crpg disabled it.
its only useful if u have a few 'pos' shields that breaks in ~5 hits, but even then the time spent switching will result in being dropt

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 12:04:01 am »
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I don't think it reduces damage. But it can have advantages. Just look at this guy. But look very closely.

(click to show/hide)

(I still shot him though. You landlubbers don't fool an old scallywag.)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 12:05:56 am by EponiCo »

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 12:05:17 am »
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<@cmpxchg8b> they add (shield_armor + 10) to your armor

This is against ranged only, though.

I am stumped.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 12:06:20 am by [ptx] »

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 12:18:46 am »
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I don't think it reduces damage. But it can have advantages. Just look at this guy. But look very closely.

(click to show/hide)

(I still shot him though. You landlubbers don't fool an old scallywag.)

I'm not seeing it......

Hrrm, I may have to test the 10 armor thing with an archer friend of mine.  Seems that it would armor to the whole body in that case.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 12:22:07 am »
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No, only the area covered by the shield. Plate armor + a steel shield would make your back pretty much invincible to ranged in this case, i guess.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 12:25:14 am »
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No, only the area covered by the shield. Plate armor + a steel shield would make your back pretty much invincible to ranged in this case, i guess.

But wouldn't even a arena shield do the trick then in this case? What would be the point of having the steel shield?

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2011, 12:30:23 am »
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<@cmpxchg8b> they add (shield_armor + 10) to your armor

Arena shield has next to no shield armor. Steel shield has lots of it.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 12:34:08 am »
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I'm not seeing it......

After he figured out he couldn't climb into my boat he walked backwards with raised shield. When I looked away for a second he put his shield on his back and turned around. Deception is also an armor.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 12:40:29 am »
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<@cmpxchg8b> they add (shield_armor + 10) to your armor

Arena shield has next to no shield armor. Steel shield has lots of it.

Oh I'm retarded, I read that as shield_armor of 10 not the shield's armor + 10.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 11:34:46 am »
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Tested this extensively this morning with Punisher and Astinus. It works, but it's not worth it. Also the shield forcefield on back seems sometimes quite random.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 10:16:24 pm »
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Tested this extensively this morning with Punisher and Astinus. It works, but it's not worth it. Also the shield forcefield on back seems sometimes quite random.

I was thinking of throwing a hide shield (12 armor) on my back when using full black plate and a full str build.  Is it just because of the move speed reduction that you think its not worth it?  Or does it just not block arrows most of the time?

Still haveing like 98 armor on my back sounds nice.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 11:00:37 pm »
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It block arrows quite often but it seems to be linked to your shield skill. So unless you have 5-6 shield skill to get the forcefield effect it's pretty useless.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 11:07:54 pm »
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It block arrows quite often but it seems to be linked to your shield skill. So unless you have 5-6 shield skill to get the forcefield effect it's pretty useless.

Well maybe 2 shield skill with a board shield then.

I WILL find a way to abuse this discovery to annoy ranged users.

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Re: Shield on back
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2011, 11:12:49 pm »
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Well maybe 2 shield skill with a board shield then.

I WILL find a way to abuse this discovery to annoy ranged users.

Oddly enough, I usually shoot people from the front, and only cav in the back.
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