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Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:16:39 am »
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Title says it, I don't see why this would be an issue. It does 2 less pierce damage than a heavy lance, and is about as long as a practice lance or red tassel/war spear. It would be more for fun than usefulness, as you probably wouldn't be riding anything more than say a rouncey while using this on horseback.

Just a thought. I've got a little crush on this weapon at the moment.

EDIT: I did forget about the distance change from holding a weapon in the middle as opposed to the end. but you could hold the flamberge from the upper grip, like you do when thrusting with it normally, just with 1 hand instead.
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 08:40:26 am »
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Because it is 152 length, with the +80 from stab animation that makes 232. Making it the longest stabbing weapon allowed on horseback (if implemented) since the great lance is 230.

Or does it have the same stab as the polearms? In which case it's still over 200. I think since it would be mounted, it would use the 1h stab anim - I could be wrong though.

However, if stab were disabled and you could only swing while mounted... hmm...

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2012, 08:51:10 am »
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Because it is 152 length, with the +80 from stab animation that makes 232. Making it the longest stabbing weapon allowed on horseback (if implemented) since the great lance is 230.

Or does it have the same stab as the polearms? In which case it's still over 200. I think since it would be mounted, it would use the 1h stab anim - I could be wrong though.

However, if stab were disabled and you could only swing while mounted... hmm...
swinging that thing from horseback would be insanely overpowered. I just meant using the sword with the lance animation. And I don't think +80 is correct...

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2012, 10:01:09 am »
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As a flamberge user i say No.
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 11:31:53 am »
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I suggested the same for the greatswords some time ago.
That would simulate this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koncerz rather well. And unlike a flamberge on horseback it wouldn't look completely retarded.

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 11:36:40 am »
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1h flamberge with crushtrough needed
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2012, 07:02:52 am »
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Because it is 152 length, with the +80 from stab animation that makes 232. Making it the longest stabbing weapon allowed on horseback (if implemented) since the great lance is 230.

Or does it have the same stab as the polearms? In which case it's still over 200. I think since it would be mounted, it would use the 1h stab anim - I could be wrong though.

However, if stab were disabled and you could only swing while mounted... hmm...

Hold on now. I don't agree with the idea, but this math is incorrect.

The lances also get a massive bonus to their reach on horseback (the same the flammy would get) and have a greater base length. so they would still outreach it.
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2012, 09:25:48 am »
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Possably... I only had a vague idea of the length values on foot, not while mounted, so I only went with what I had. Either way, it gave a vague idea that it would be OP.

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2012, 09:27:12 am »
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iirc the stab bonus for 2Hers are about 80, and the stab for polearms IF used in one hand is +61-ish, which is why Hoplites always stab farther then their normal brethren using the same weapons (And why the Bamboo spear with a shield is so lulzy).
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2012, 07:22:42 pm »
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Because it is 152 length, with the +80 from stab animation that makes 232. Making it the longest stabbing weapon allowed on horseback (if implemented) since the great lance is 230.

Or does it have the same stab as the polearms? In which case it's still over 200. I think since it would be mounted, it would use the 1h stab anim - I could be wrong though.

However, if stab were disabled and you could only swing while mounted... hmm...
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 03:26:43 pm »
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iirc the stab bonus for 2Hers are about 80, and the stab for polearms IF used in one hand is +61-ish, which is why Hoplites always stab farther then their normal brethren using the same weapons (And why the Bamboo spear with a shield is so lulzy).

But also the flamberge is unique in that it doesn't stab like a normal 2h sword. It uses a polearm animation where he grips it much further up the sword. That's why the flamberge right swing is the longest attack, and not the thrust.

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 04:13:18 pm »
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Yes, but if it were used on horseback, it would use the 1h stab animation, thus gaining the 1h stab length.

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 09:24:09 am »
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Yes, but if it were used on horseback, it would use the 1h stab animation, thus gaining the 1h stab length.

If it WERE actually a problem, which I don't see it being one.... Here is your solution, which has been in my original post since your first response.

EDIT: I did forget about the distance change from holding a weapon in the middle as opposed to the end. but you could hold the flamberge from the upper grip, like you do when thrusting with it normally, just with 1 hand instead.

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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 10:01:04 am »
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Flamberge on a horseback? I can see the realism in that.
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Re: Use Flamberge on horseback, but thrust animation only.
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 01:15:27 pm »
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That's not a solution, since it's not possible - at least, I don't believe it's possible.