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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2012, 07:11:11 pm »
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2012, 07:14:40 pm »
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2012, 07:16:32 pm »
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STOP THE RASISCM

The anger and trashtalking between different classes in crpg needs to be dealt with.
It's not much different from real life rasiscm between humans in my opinion.

You may defend it by saying that this is just a game.
But the fact is that real people still get upset because they have become one with their class and playstyle.

You may defend it by saying it's just a joke but that's not a good argument either.
It doesn't work to say bad stuff to people IRL and then just telling them it was a joke.


STOP OVERUSING CERTAIN WORDS IN A BAD WAY

I don't mind people being gay and I also understand that some people are homophobic.
But that doesn't mean I don't get annoyed seeing the word "my old friend" 1000 times whenever I log on to the forums or play the game.

Do yourself a favor and try to be creative by using some other words.
Or even easier, just use the word "cav", "archer", "2H" etc without adding another word to it...


Thanks.
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2012, 07:34:38 pm »
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This "niceness" you mention I just call "decent human behavior"... but I suppose on the internet where everyone is a trolly douche, decent human behavior is something of merit  :)

I like telling people that they're wrong in an edgy way, it's more effective and it sure is a hell of a lot more fun.

"wrong" is a tricky subject, and this is where many forum users become assholes - many people assume that their personal opinion is "right" and the other person's is "wrong".  Wrong is very subjective depending on the subject.

In real life (face to face) people are MUCH more conservative about proclaiming that they are right and everyone else is wrong...the bold (and not validated) proclamations of truth found on forums are a symptom of the anonymity of the internet.

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Your post is interesting though - starts out saying basically "being cordial is more effective and better for the community", but then it goes on to say "well, being an ass is more fun, that's why I (Bjord) do it, but I can be nice too!".  Then you say "treat others as you would be treated" having just mentioned you prefer to act like an ass most of the time, so you want people to treat you like shit?  :?:

Then the tl;dr is basically "Everyone's a dick (us assholes aren't that bad), stop taking it so seriously and deal with it"

Overall I like your post, but this apparent shifting of message is sort of confusing....
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2012, 07:38:09 pm »
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"wrong" is a tricky subject, and this is where many forum users become assholes - many people assume that their personal opinion is "right" and the other person's is "wrong".  Wrong is very subjective depending on the subject.

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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2012, 07:44:22 pm »
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So you are roleplaying an asshole?

Ahhhh that's why there is always shit coming out of your mouth.
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2012, 07:50:01 pm »
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I act like how I would irl, mostly. I don't go out of my way to please or piss anyone off. That trolling persona bit got old for me way too long ago.

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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2012, 08:07:45 pm »
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I'm a nice asshole guy with homosexual tendencies. Yay to me!
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2012, 08:08:24 pm »
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Of course I don't actually think people will believe me when I say it's an act, that's sort of the point of an act, you're not supposed to be a part-time asshole. Yes, this is a tautology so I guess sorry for not bothering to explain better. I just wanted to hint at the fact that people take things too personal. Something I don't do is bring up personal stuff, if I talked to you on TS and you told me something personal, I would never use that against you. I won't say that nobody likes you because this and that, I think it's a cheap way of lowering someone's self-esteem. I may have done so in the past but that was then, years ago. Last time I did this was against Gingerpussy from Mercs. I really regretted it the moment I said it, and I got seriously warned by an admin. I'm still today feeling bad about that and I hope he reads this.

If I ever truly felt like a complete and inconsiderate piece of shit, that was then. Trolling with IRL info is the lowest form of trolling. I've seen people who call me a troll do it regularly, mostly against me, but occasionally against others. IRL info trolling is when you use something personal and skew it into something that is humiliating for the other person, and that shit is weak.

Khorin said that people don't have the ability to see through an act when you behave like that 90% of the time, and you're absolutely correct. I don't expect people to either.

But what I expect is that people open their eyes a bit. That 10% of nice guy may happen rarely, but it does happen. And when it does, use your wits if you have any. :wink:

If any of you have seen the movie "Megamind", I like to think of myself like him sometimes. Sure, I may have started out as an angry kid with self-control issues, but that went away after the first year of cRPG. I just didn't see the point in lashing out like a crazy person in the chat all the time. However, even as I stopped the "actual" rage, people kept treating me the same, so I just went with it. I talked to some peoe on the TS and one thing they always said, when I first talked to them was this:

"Wow, I didn't think you'd be such a calm guy on the TS. In-game I always see you raging and insulting people. What a surprise."

Even people like Ragni has said that, and if you've been around for a while you'd know he doesn't think very highly of me. He still doesn't, but I thought it was worth bringing up.

Of course I can still cuss at stuff that happens in-game when on TS, but I'm completely different when talked to in person. I hope many people can attest to this, even people from NA from when I've snuck into their TS and chatted them up. :oops:

Anyway, you're all free to think what you want, I'm not going to lose any sleep if you think I'm a bad person.

 
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2012, 08:11:51 pm »
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bjord whatever i said,dont worry youre a good kid imo, all else is just countertrollin
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2012, 08:14:47 pm »
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When you post cordially I tend to +1 or commend you for it (which you may have noticed, may not have)...regardless of how I've seen you post in the past.  I may carry less bias in this department than some, whom once they decide "this person is an ass" they will forever paint whatever they say that way.

But you mentioned that if someone acts one way 90% of the time that "people cant see through the act".
If you're acting some way 90% of the time is it really an "act" anymore?.......

People usually reap what they sow, just keep that in mind.
For the record, I don't think you're a bad person at all...you just like trolling, and I dislike it (whether im doing it, someone else is doing it, against me or against others, just dont like it...its juvenile)
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2012, 08:17:43 pm »
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This "niceness" you mention I just call "decent human behavior"... but I suppose on the internet where everyone is a trolly douche, decent human behavior is something of merit  :)

"wrong" is a tricky subject, and this is where many forum users become assholes - many people assume that their personal opinion is "right" and the other person's is "wrong".  Wrong is very subjective depending on the subject.

In real life (face to face) people are MUCH more conservative about proclaiming that they are right and everyone else is wrong...the bold (and not validated) proclamations of truth found on forums are a symptom of the anonymity of the internet.

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Your post is interesting though - starts out saying basically "being cordial is more effective and better for the community", but then it goes on to say "well, being an ass is more fun, that's why I (Bjord) do it, but I can be nice too!".  Then you say "treat others as you would be treated" having just mentioned you prefer to act like an ass most of the time, so you want people to treat you like shit?  :?:

Then the tl;dr is basically "Everyone's a dick (us assholes aren't that bad), stop taking it so seriously and deal with it"

Overall I like your post, but this apparent shifting of message is sort of confusing....

Of course you're right. Basically, why my post is so "shifty", is because I'd like to let people know that I am aware of all the rules and niceties that is worth living by, I just don't care for them at all times. But when I do, and when it's obvious that I, at the time, am being cordial, don't call out on me because I offended you in the past.

Maybe it's too much to ask for, i.e can't have the cake and eait it too. :wink:

But to me, it was worth putting out there. I'm not expecting anything to change.

One more thing, and maybe it's already obvious: I like sparking discussions, it's just fascinating. :)
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2012, 08:23:41 pm »
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People will seek revenge when they can...if you've offended someone over and over, when they get the chance most will take their opportunity to offend you.

I find it better not to because that just perpetuates the cycle - you have annoyed me at times but its only in passing so after that I just forget about it :)

But yeah, chances are most people will not be nice to a perpetual asshole just because he is being nice one time.

It's similar to the "Boy who cried wolf"...
He claimed there was a wolf to "troll" the townspeople, and did this many times.
When there actually WAS a wolf, they did not believe him and did not come to help.

Possibly not the best comparison, but similar effect. 
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 08:26:29 pm »
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AFAIK, I've tried to communicate that I'm not a perpetual asshole maybe twice, but yeah.

Anyway, nice to hear everyone's viewpoint.

And I always laugh when I see Ad1no minus my posts, god bless his soul and his endurance. :D
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Re: The Benefits of Being a Nice Guy in Communities contra an Asshole
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2012, 08:31:42 pm »
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I would say that I am the nicest person on this board. I'm kind to all races and types (except fucking gypsies, eat it smooth), shit I'll mate with all of you right now if you want.
I got gypsie blood for fucks sake :(
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