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mounted combat proficiency.
« on: September 12, 2012, 07:34:35 pm »
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i often hear people bitching that dismounted cav can fight very well on foot.   

what do these people think of introducing above proficiency,  which dictates the effectiveness of a weapon when mounted.

this way,  a wpf split has to be done and gimps cav a bit more.  yay.  yay?
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 07:36:50 pm »
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Would it be a "mounted" generic wpf or one different for each kind of weapon? If it is the second one, it could include horse archery and be a direct mounted ranged buff.

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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 07:42:04 pm »
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maybe wpf for riding????
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2012, 08:46:48 pm »
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If you can aim very well with a bow on a horse, you can also aim while walking.

Maybe split it up, but when you put wpf in mounted combat, you gain 50% (random number) in unmounted combat as well?

Will be a slight nerf to cav on foot.
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2012, 10:26:32 pm »
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I suggested this a while ago, it got ignored tho :(

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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2012, 11:18:14 pm »
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Hmm dunno really... Requires a free respec for everyone with riding skill, so most likely not realistically possible.
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 12:35:50 am »
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Subtle cav buff I see.  :D

It'd be interesting to say the least. Cav would be stronger or the same but worse when their horse dies. Might see an increase in armored horses over coursers though.
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2012, 02:57:50 am »
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its not something i would want to see,  as i like being pure polearmer,  its just something that came to my mind when i was reading the daily cav whine and spontaneously compared us to archers,  who have to sacrifice PS for PD and melee wpf for bow wpf,  whilst we can ride a horse and only have to sacrifice sp,  not wpfpts. 

again:  i would hate to see it,  but i think its worth a discussion.
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 03:13:20 am »
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Well what would be worth a discussion is, how we could give archers some of their melee ability back. It's not that much about melee wpf but when I made my archer alt I just couldn't get more than 3 powerstrike. I would have sacrificed too much if I took any points from athletics, power draw or WM (really important to archers) so I sacrificed all IF points instead.

Archers could make a decent hybrid if they only got some powerstrike to the build. It would courage people to get a 1 slot melee weapon more often instead of one extra stack of arrows. In hands of a skilled player wpf doesn't matter that much in the end. A decent compromise I think.
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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2012, 03:16:13 am »
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This would absolutely ruin any non-joustinglanceagiwhorearabian cav who never die in the first place,  yet get tons of kills.


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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2012, 07:30:32 am »
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Well what would be worth a discussion is, how we could give archers some of their melee ability back. It's not that much about melee wpf but when I made my archer alt I just couldn't get more than 3 powerstrike. I would have sacrificed too much if I took any points from athletics, power draw or WM (really important to archers) so I sacrificed all IF points instead.

Archers could make a decent hybrid if they only got some powerstrike to the build. It would courage people to get a 1 slot melee weapon more often instead of one extra stack of arrows. In hands of a skilled player wpf doesn't matter that much in the end. A decent compromise I think.

It is perfectly viable to go hybrid archer. You are at a bit of a disadvantage, but do you really want to be a master in all trades?
Currently 15/21 archer/shielder hybrid, probably one of the most skill requiring hybrids except for mounted ranged (PD, PS, Shield, Athl, WM), and doing completely fine. Carl Hans comes to mind with his archer/2her, but not many others because of the min-maxer we all bring inside... If I have a bow and high athletics (as going over 18 STR has more disadvantages than advantages imo), why would I turn and fight if I can just outrun you and then shoot at you without you having any chance of striking back?
And idea would be to buff high str archery, this would make them less capable to run.

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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 08:33:17 am »
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I'm a cav/footman and I support this notion.

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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 08:45:04 am »
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I'm a cav/footman and I support this notion.
Correction, you are a LHB cav who somehow sees an opportunity here :mrgreen:
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 08:51:06 am »
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Correction, you are a LHB cav who somehow sees an opportunity here :mrgreen:

What kind of an opportunity? I would be struck the hardest really. I'm extremely effective even when dehorsed due to my LHB and 7 ATH.

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Re: mounted combat proficiency.
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 08:57:41 am »
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What kind of an opportunity? I would be struck the hardest really. I'm extremely effective even when dehorsed due to my LHB and 7 ATH.
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