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Do you want balanced war elephants in cRPG?

Yes, this is what i have always dreamed of since the day i was born
62 (40.8%)
Yes
24 (15.8%)
Yes, and oliphants too
20 (13.2%)
No, im a sad person
13 (8.6%)
No.
33 (21.7%)

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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2011, 09:57:57 am »
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this game does not account for stamina. On topic though many weapons would be very impractical to use from elephant for example even a hafted blade would have difficulties reaching a target from astride an elephant so that also should be accounted into balance.

I imagine that elephants would be used to crush infantry ranks and break formations possibly in teams they would not appear often but would be extremely difficult to kill. I am unable to imagine that they would be unarmored either.
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2011, 11:08:09 am »
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This could add some fun. I vote yes. But How will the elephants be used?

- Trampling infantry (increased bump damages)?
- Charging with their tusks?
- Trumpetting wildly and eating peanuts?

Because I can hardly imagine a rider couching his lance or swinging his cavalry scimitar from left to right from an elephant. Maybe they could be like a mobile platform with archers and crossbowmen on it, which means being able to carry several persons... maybe hard to code.


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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2011, 03:00:28 pm »
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Maybe they could be like a mobile platform with archers and crossbowmen

No, never.
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2011, 04:28:36 pm »
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I would say horse charge  75:D
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2011, 05:08:17 pm »
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for the camel i think it should be better armored than a horse but slower(just like in RL) and ofcourse some lower tier camels wouldn't have armor. also the feet of a camel are longer than those of a horse so it would be harder to hit someone from foot, and the head also is higher than that of a horse so you can't really pike someone of the camel like you can with a horse. do you sit on the bump, in fornt of the bump or behind the bump on the camels back? because if you sit in front of the bump it would also protect you a bit in your back. this also means that onehander from camel would work less good than form a horse but lances would work better. you would also swing more around from a camels back than form a horse so more difficult to hit woth arrows, bolts and throwing weapons.
(how do i know so much about the camels body? i took one in the but last summer :P)

about the elephants i think they should be faster than everyone is saying because elephants can run 50km/h which is about 32m/h. ofcourse these elephants are armored, but also in a war spirit wich makes adrenaline and makes them faster. for the damage i think elephants should have a couching mode that puts their heads down and lets their tusks to the ground. this is probably hardcode but someone can give it a try if they want. if this is not possible(probably) i think they should have a good amount of charge damage so you can accually use that as a weapon. and not a dirty HA trick.

my questions are:
will a stab to the chest stop it(cuse cmon would it stop an elephant?)
and how will you get of the elephant?

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for the camel i think a new animation is required for the swinging on a camel.
maybe to balance camels make a chance that they suddenly prance(for it is a stubern animal)
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2011, 02:32:52 am »
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I would actually love Elephants ingame :D

If they aren't OP of course
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2011, 03:15:46 pm »
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and btw i think if you wanna get on an elephant you have to climb a long way so if the rider on the elephant dies you canĀ“t just get up it in mid-battle.
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2011, 10:58:15 pm »
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No obviously, the rider would look stupid as there is no elephant skeleton and youb sitting in the elephant, I remember this from some other mod where this was sugested but then shot down as it looks stupid.
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2011, 06:09:48 pm »
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ofcourse we should make sure you don't sit IN the elephant but that pretty easy i guess
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2011, 06:44:23 pm »
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There is a problem with the model bugging out wich can't be solved without editing the binaries, afaik, so not easy.
The other problem is of course making the burning pigs to counter them.

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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2011, 07:30:02 am »
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i think i'm on the wrong forum cuse this sounds like rome total war!!!!!!!
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2011, 07:15:19 pm »
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people who gave me a minus have no understanding of elephants and so they are just stupid and should be ignored. chadz wants elephants too if you look deep inside his heart im sure.

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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2011, 08:28:56 pm »
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i want elephants but does the model work(if we have one) and doesn't the rider sit in it?
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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2011, 02:15:37 am »
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We could at least get baby elephants that sound like horses.  I'd go for that.

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Re: add real war elephants!
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2011, 07:27:40 am »
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ye elephants that are alitlle bigger than horses and more armor, hp and charge but les speed manuver!

good idea
that won't be as overpowered(or underpowered) as the larger elephants. still i want both in and camels!
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