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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2012, 02:52:20 pm »
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2012, 03:44:18 pm »
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don't forget

Best cRPG video after this :


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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2012, 04:10:29 pm »
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Messaged Harald yesterday, overlords never reply

cRPG badly needs a logo and an intro animation
When I check most of the videos I have to say typography is tingling my OCD senses. Courier new, Comic Sans, Arial, Times New Roman...forget about these. Stop being lazy and check sites like www.dafont.com stay away from fantasy fonts as well as unreadable initials.
Same goes for audio, as Cooties mentioned above there are more possibilities than just cliché requiem for a dream etc. Check stuff like X-Ray Dog, Audiomachine, Two Steps From Hell, Cavendish Music, Epic Score etc. If you can't find something make your own. There are several composers in this community. FYI Medieval folk has no copyrights since any sound recording first made in the USA (EU has different but more flexible rules) prior to 1972 is not covered by federal copyright law. For example Stronghold only uses medieval like simple tunes and it catches the feeling. Not everything has to be like 300, we are not making a MMORPG trailer here. Mix tunes, there are time limits in copyright law. When I'm dividing my skill points I don't get that epic and ragey.

this is a very good example about what right person with right software can do

There are some intro examples such as :


and these are very quick just weekend works. There are other people who were creative enough to make interface mods, backgrounds etc. long before it was ever suggested officially. Find them, ask them what they can do. Ask map makers to suggest the environment.

A storyboard is required, it doesn't work with "-maybe a castle shot, maybe a battle shot, maybe a romantic scene" anyone with a good imagination can come up with a good storyboard.

Anyone can be a director of their shot too. Ask people, ask clans and I'm sure you'll find people willing to help. Forget about the word "Maybe", it means you don't know what you are doing.

Long story short, don't try to make a movie from random material "oh maybe I can squeeze these 10 seconds of nonsense in between" don't exceed 2.5 minutes approx.
People willing to do anything : write down which software you use and on what level, be honest about it. Instagram like Photoshop effects don't make you a CG guru.
Don't turn the whole thing into your clan's or your personal boasting.
Don't write random crap on it like "courage, power, rape"
Set yourself a time limit, be brief about things, Make titles like : Public Battle, DTV, Strategus, Character Development, Community etc. give a certain time to each title
Most importantly don't be lazy and be creative.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzAV7S-WaVQ&feature=BFa&list=SP846B4377403CBBF6 this is a good play list to give you some inspiration. Your goal should be giving some highlights to cRPG about its differences from other mods.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 04:43:59 pm by Noctivagant »
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2012, 04:25:28 pm »
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I remember starring in a movie project as a PEASANT!!!
If i remember correct , all nditions ts user clans were involved and it was about templols raiding a poor village.
Again if i remember correct , the video was for Machinima .
Dafuck happened to that project ?
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2012, 04:38:40 pm »
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never forget ^^


anyway say how much time do we have to put up an entry, if the time is unlimited this will take way too long and the wait for people with almost finished thing will be annoying

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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2012, 05:43:25 pm »
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Nice initiative.
Even though much could be improved it's still one of the best promotion videos for crpg up to date.

Didn't like it, sorry.

Too many random effects, horrible font, weird transitions and overall poorly made.

Not sayin I could do better, but I have an eye for detail and quality. I didn't mean any offense, I just don't think this should be representing cRPG.


I agree with Bjord.

- Make intro shorter and decrease the number of different effects (make it more consistent).
- Make transitions faster.
- Decrease font size.
- Replace the music (The Game of thrones theme is a good example of something I would like to hear)
- Also, video quality needs to be higher but I guess that was intentional just to show it quickly.

What should be done is to show the diversity in crpg (classes & equipment) by showing in game battles with different themes and different music to it.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2012, 05:56:06 pm by Riddaren »

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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2012, 06:18:42 pm »
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Video should include essential assets like "How to view equipment key" and "What to do against lolstab and outreach"
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2012, 06:44:57 pm »
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i am willing to help by being an actor/figurant in eny videos, i am reachable at all times through the nordmen ts  :wink:
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2012, 07:05:43 pm »
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All i can say is... Knock yourselves out then.... The criticism is very high on these forums. I should have known better to post that video or evan take the time out.  :wink:
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2012, 07:28:32 pm »
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If you can't handle criticism you shouldn't post things that will be criticized. :wink:
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2012, 07:39:51 pm »
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All i can say is... Knock yourselves out then.... The criticism is very high on these forums. I should have known better to post that video or evan take the time out.  :wink:

Bjord is right, you can't post a suggestion for a promotional video without expecting to receive plenty of criticism from different angles.

Criticism such as that isn't personally though, I'm sure everyone appreciate the time and effort you spent. People just rarely express appreciation.

Give it another shot, perhaps start by focusing more on the CG intro instead of in-game footage.
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2012, 08:00:25 pm »
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It wasn't a personal attack, I was simply critiquing your work.

And personally, I never submit something unless I am 100% satisfied with the work. As I said, I have a trained eye for this sort of work as I attend a school focusing on media, that includes all types of editing, photographs and videos alike - and overall things that appeal to ones aesthetic sense. In a trailer, you need dramaturgy and good transitions, even the choice of music needs to be carefully picked.

And if I were to encourage or suggest a guide line, it would be this:

It has to feel epic. You need to keep in mind that the promotional video needs to appeal to as many people as possible for the mod to attract more people. If you are unable to inaugurate such considerations into your work then I strongly suggest you give this a pass.

There are some guys in this community whom have some talent for this, and even make a living from. One particular person I have in mind is Noctivagant. Looking forward to his contribution.

I will also try to contribute, you're welcome to return the favour and critique on my(and Zapper's) work.
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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2012, 08:19:59 pm »
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Don't worry, Thomek will be done with the Ninja movie soon. One more week. Or maybe two.

Honest  :wink:

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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2012, 08:37:36 pm »
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Don't worry, Thomek will be done with the Ninja movie soon. One more week. Or maybe two.

Honest  :wink:

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Re: New promotion video contest
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2012, 08:39:51 pm »
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lol just saw the comment.. I have a RL film or 3 to finish first ok?

Alright.. if the deadline is 1.5 months+ i could try to submit something.. You see I'm a busy AND lazy person :)

Anyway, as I happen to make (short) films in RL for too many years.. :)
Here's a little trailer for my lost in editing crpg film:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9GtrHL-UdM

I guess the video in question has to be a kind of infotainment presentation, but it would be good if it had story elements.

Kudos for Noctivagants advice btw. :)  (Except there is nothing wrong with curier! lol)

1. Be prepared, a video like this is a LOT of work.
2. Plan it fucking well! Make storyboard, try to play back the video in your head, in DETAIL. Then stay true to your vision!
3. Beware of the limitations of cRPG camera:

* Freemode camera makes it hard to do smooth pans. Only 2 speeds, second one is very fast. Only 1 wide "lens"
* 1st person view have limited speeds but also "long lens" if you zoom.
* Another trick to make slow cameramoves is to ride on a horse backwards.
* You will need a good mouse to do good cameramoves

4. Experiment with different texture packs before you shoot!
5. Don't be afraid to ask about advice. Technical and artistic.. If you have crappy fonts/text or need color grading or other effects, there are people here that are willing to help.

6. Plan it well! cmpx created a script now perhaps buried in time to control the weather and time of day for my film.. You can ask him about this. Plan ahead what armors people are going to wear, find reliable actors. (I had 40+ people on TS for the battlescenes in my film..)

Bit about planning..
Ok you have your vision, now make a storyboard. Check if its possible to film with crpg camera. If not, revise it until it does.
For every frame figure out what you need. Locations, time of day, weather, characters, armors etc etc. Write down Lists.
Contact the people you need in advance. :) and PLAN.

Good luck! :)

(7. Oh and DO TESTS if you are trying something difficult. How to handle material, how to convert, software color correction, sound, etc etc..)
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