Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?

[WhiteAndMilky]

Well, as I said, it wont do much damage.

You could also take 3 WM more and put them into Crossbow instead of the 3 PT.

I have yet to use crossbow, it does not user power draw?

[Kafein]

Shield skill matters. Especially on horse. You want your shield to protect you and your precious horse, and it can do that.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 7
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 7
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 133
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

[CaveSquirrel]

I have yet to use crossbow, it does not user power draw?

Nope it doesnt.

Also the build Kafein wrote is good, used it myself for a few gens.

[WhiteAndMilky]

Hmm ok. I may give that a try. What does the extra point of shield skill do exactly? (Since there is no shield skill 7 shield)

Also, if I use xbow, it would just be for on-ground yes?

[CaveSquirrel]

You could use them on horse, but only Light Xbow and Hunting Xbow are reloadable on horse.

Each Shhieldskillpoint makes them 7 or 8% (at least i believe) stronger and they have a wider range they protect.

[WhiteAndMilky]

You could use them on horse, but only Light Xbow and Hunting Xbow are reloadable on horse.

Each Shhieldskillpoint makes them 7 or 8% (at least i believe) stronger and they have a wider range they protect.

Oh hmm interesting.

I actually am now carrying around a double sided lance as a secondary, since it is couchable and also sheathable... it lets me ride around and couch those shield blockers, and sheath it without having to drop it and go back later.

So my question is, if I am using polearm just on the rare occasion, what would polearm wpf do for me? Is it only speed increase? Because I have powerstrike, I don't need a speed increase on it.

[Smoothrich]

All you need is 4 shield skill for cav, only going to need elite cav shield and that magic cav shield bubble is just as good at 4.

IF is great for cav, you can't get your second life as infantry if you die to 2 arrows or a single lance while mounted.  Put in as much as you can spare.

Don't need more than 110 or so 1hand wpf, which is default for 0 WM, doubly so if you are primarily fighting on horseback.  3 WM is a decent investment for a dedicated melee character but you can make better builds without it.

Just 3 WM allows you to have 110 in 1hand and ~80 in polearms, in light-medium armor this is sufficient for lancing.  WPF isn't required for lancing but you do noticeably less damage without any, and lancing generally just feels smoother with some.  If you aren't going 80+ WPF or usually just couch  however it isn't worth it.

[WhiteAndMilky]

All you need is 4 shield skill for cav, only going to need elite cav shield and that magic cav shield bubble is just as good at 4.

IF is great for cav, you can't get your second life as infantry if you die to 2 arrows or a single lance while mounted.  Put in as much as you can spare.

Don't need more than 110 or so 1hand wpf, which is default for 0 WM, doubly so if you are primarily fighting on horseback.  3 WM is a decent investment for a dedicated melee character but you can make better builds without it.

Just 3 WM allows you to have 110 in 1hand and ~80 in polearms, in light-medium armor this is sufficient for lancing.  WPF isn't required for lancing but you do noticeably less damage without any, and lancing generally just feels smoother with some.  If you aren't going 80+ WPF or usually just couch  however it isn't worth it.

I really dont want to be lancing very often though, I have a lancer character, and I enjoy that when I play that one. I want this character to be mostly 1h on horseback, and the doublesided/practice lance is just for those tricky situations where I either don't have enough reach or I need to couch someone who is too good at blocking, or is turtling with a shield.

Another question: THe speed rating of shields determines how fast your 1h attacks are correct? And if so, a higher speed rating is better for shield yes? As I said up earlier in the build, I want to move quickly through a crowd, to attack quickly from the back. What shield would be best for this?

[Smoothrich]

Shield speed is how fast the blocks are, 100 is the same as manual blocking, as far as I know.  You should be more worried about the weight of your shield, as this affects your movement speed like any gear weight penalty.  The elite cavalry shield happens to be the lightest "medium" shield with the biggest protection while mounted as well.  Its just a little weaker then similar shields, but basically any of them get 3 shotted by bardiches and poleaxes (unless a loomed huscarl or something) and easily survive against ranged and melee.

[Joseph Porta]

Id go 18 agi, as a 1h cav you dont want the arabian-unless you loomed it, otherwise its up to you. 

[WhiteAndMilky]

Yeah after playing this character quite a bit, I'm not sure if I will go past riding 5 anymore. I still will like the athletics and I want a lot of shield. But I think for the playstyle destrier might be best. What do you guys think? I like to do a lot of maneuvering, which made me want the arabian in the first place, but I think it might not have enough health and armor or ramming dmg, and I'm not good enough to pull it off.

Also I no longer carry a sheathable couchable lance, I now carry a one handed axe, to deal with the shielders, this also helps me when I get dismounted, as lance would be useless against a shielder on the ground. So its shield breaking capability coupled with its shorter reach, gives me a lot more options when fighting shields or face hugging polearm users. Just a general viability increase.

So I am now 3/4 slots. And if I really wanted to go crazy, I could carry my iberian mace with me too lol, but I haven't had a need to go that extreme yet.

If I decide not to use the extra points in riding to go from 5-7, I may now use them for some throwing, to fill the very last slot in my equipment loadout. I had thought of the crossbow idea, but I really like having the long reaching cav sword + the shield breaking axe. It would really only be to throw at archers while on foot and so forth. So I have saved some WPF, just incase I choose to do that.

EDIT: Oh I forgot that more riding points makes my horses faster with better maneuver, so I will probably stick to leveling riding then to 7. That way I can get better speed and handling on a destrier.

Any advice on the new plan is very much appreciated, I really like this character, and I want it to see its full potential.

[Mlekce]

Attribute points:0
Strength:15-
Agility:21-
Weapon points:3
One Handed:112-
Two Handed:1+
Polearm:111-
Throwing:1+
Crossbow:1+
Archery:1+
Skill points:0
Weapon Master:5-
Athletics:7-
Riding:7-
Iron Flesh:0
Shield:5-
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:5-
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:0

[WhiteAndMilky]

Attribute points:0
Strength:15-
Agility:21-
Weapon points:3
One Handed:112-
Two Handed:1+
Polearm:111-
Throwing:1+
Crossbow:1+
Archery:1+
Skill points:0
Weapon Master:5-
Athletics:7-
Riding:7-
Iron Flesh:0
Shield:5-
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:5-
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:0

Yes that looks nice but I am not doing polearm at all on this character. I have a lancer alt, I don't need this one to be the same, otherwise there wouldn't be a point in playing it!

[Kafein]

Id go 18 agi, as a 1h cav you dont want the arabian-unless you loomed it, otherwise its up to you. 

The courser is terrible except if you are sure to play on super flat maps. Otherwise, I'd take an arabian over a destrier since that's the point of having 7 riding.

The horse is ofc. the first thing that needs to be heirloomed.

[Mlekce]

convert then 5 points form wm to if,and enjoy. Class is pretty hard to play.
111wpf in 1h is enough. I have it for few gens and i am inf shielder,and it is fast as hell.
Or lower shield and athl for one point and have a 18/21 build and 6 ps and 7 riding.