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Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« on: September 08, 2012, 06:06:11 am »
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Hello! Yes, It's been almost a full day, and that means time to make another character! (The addiction is now fixed)

I keep trying to make builds that allow me to avoid parry, since my ping is not so great... but I generally don't like shields. So I was trying to think of an alternative approach to shielding.

The build I would like to create, is a 1hander/shield cav. I was planning on using courser, and maybe the arabian warhorse, since I think its maneuver would be really good for side slashing groups of people with my arabian cavalry sword! I'd also like to be speedy on foot, I don't care much for shield-turtling. I'd like to push up on people with my shield, and if possible, dance around them as I fight. Even if I were just to create distractions so that they would turn their backs on my teammates (I enjoy playing support and teamwork-oriented roles)

I have a lancer cav character, and I love it. So I don't want to do that at all on this one, I want to use just shield/sword, and maybe even throwing if I can fit it into the build, even if low/0 points go into it... I'll chuck rocks! I plan to wear very light armor, maybe cavalry robes to fit with the theme, relying on the shield almost always to absorb all the damage. I haven't used shields or one handed in cRPG, so even basic tips and tricks would help me.

Things I know I need/will use:
Courser at least (riding 6) and maybe arabian (riding 7)
Arabian Cavalry sword, I like swords with long reach, and the damage looks great with this for cav!
Light armor, maybe heavy boots

Things I need help with:
Build refinement
What shields would be good to use
Technique tips for cav and foot battles with 1h and shield

EDIT: Newer build I punched up:

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 21

Hit points: 58

Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 149
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1



Rough build I came up with:

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 13
Agility: 25
Hit points: 54

Skills to attributes: 4

Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 4
Athletics: 8
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 2

One Handed: 127
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

I could really use some help with making this build come to life. Everyone has been very helpful with me so far, and I'm looking forward to what you guys can give me!
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 12:35:49 pm by WhiteAndMilky »

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2012, 10:16:01 am »
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get 15/21
I believe you can get:
5 if
5ps
7ath
7 ridiing
5 wm
and aorund 140 1h wpp.
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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2012, 10:43:23 am »
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get 15/21
I believe you can get:
5 if
5ps
7ath
7 ridiing
5 wm
and aorund 140 1h wpp.

You forgot shield though, which is the pinnacle part of the build. And In my playstyle, if its possible, I would be avoiding IF almost completely, because my shield would be taking the damage.

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2012, 12:34:36 pm »
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Maybe you were thinking something like this?

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 21

Hit points: 58

Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 149
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 12:58:48 pm »
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You don't really need IF as Cav, specially when you use a shield.

Spend those 3/4Points in more WM/Shield or Athl.

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 01:22:11 pm »
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You don't really need IF as Cav, specially when you use a shield.

Spend those 3/4Points in more WM/Shield or Athl.

Even for those arrows and bolts that hit you miraculously?

I started this character, and its in a place right now where I haven't made any path decisions yet, it just has all the basic points in. (shield, athletics, riding, power strike)

I bought a practice lance to carry with me just to have a little somethin with range for fighting shielders, but I just realized it's the only sheathable, couchable lance! I like it better than the jousting lance I just bought! I might carry it with me all the time. I got a few kills with it no problem!

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 02:07:29 pm »
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Even for those arrows and bolts that hit you miraculously?



For that you have the shield.

I would go for another lance though, preferably Lance or Heavy Lance.

Lance:
+ faster
+ more damage
- only 10 shorter
 
When your good maneuvering you can take out every other horseman with a normal lance

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2012, 02:13:40 pm »
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Ye sorry I forgot shield :P
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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2012, 10:15:10 pm »
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are the shield skill 5 and 6 shields worth it? Or should I just drop those points in WM/IF? I play pretty aggressive, so if it just means the shields last slightly longer that won't benefit me that much.

EDIT: Remember I want to be fast and agile.
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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2012, 11:01:26 pm »
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I believe 4 shield skill is enough for cav, because you don't use it a lot while on horseback. And even if your shield breaks, you can easily find another one on the battlefield because you are able to use any shield except of 3 high grade shields.

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 11:11:30 pm »
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Or how about this build? It incorporates my first plan of using throwing. I don't need to be able to do long range throws, just gonna use it to poke down some of the STR heavy two handers and polearm users.

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 21

Hit points: 50

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 3
Weapon Master: 6

One Handed: 149
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 70

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 11:36:29 pm »
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To be accurate on horse with throwing weapons you would also need Horse Archery, also 3 PT arent making that much damage, would only be helpful against low armored guys.

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2012, 11:39:10 pm »
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I was actually thinking of using it when I got dropped to the ground, or to also lob at pesky archers in things like seige. Is it really just not worth the points? Probably wouldnt throw many of them from horseback

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 11:49:26 pm »
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Well, as I said, it wont do much damage.

You could also take 3 WM more and put them into Crossbow instead of the 3 PT.

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Re: Help with an agility 1h/shield cav?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2012, 12:14:31 am »
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