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Is Bastard sword - 1 slot a good idea?

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slot rebalance
« on: September 07, 2012, 01:05:13 pm »
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Dear everybody,

What's going on with the slot balance? What is it based on?

I would like to know why bastard and heavy bastard sword take 2 slots and for example arabian cavalry sword takes 1 slot.

When it comes to length, they are similar and when it comes to weight, there are 1h weapons that weight more than those swords and they still take only 1 slot. ( ex. Military Cleaver ).

Making nearly every 2h weapon take 2 slots kills variety in game, doesn't it?

I guess that the current slot solution was introduced to keep balance in games as it might be connected with 2h animation but I still think that similar items should take similar amount of slots.

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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 01:21:17 pm »
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inb4 all archers using 1 slot 2h swords
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 01:25:35 pm »
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why not, maybe some of them then decide to fight instead to delay  :mrgreen:
I don't mind. Some people do tho...

I would instantly use them. I took 3 PS on my archer alt instead of ironflesh and use the "Tenne sword" occationally.
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 01:29:01 pm »
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Well I guess that is what makes most melee rage the hardest when I beat them in melee with archer alt. Doesn't happen too often because obviously I glance a lot but when I am successful the rage is delicious :mrgreen:
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 01:50:59 pm »
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i would say no cuz i am afraid to get killed by archers, not only their bows do insane amount of damage but lets give them good 2 h wepon to give them chance to defend themselves from infantry, oh and lets make plate armor to be only 6 (kg?) heavy  so they can have russ bows bodkins heavy bastard swords and heavy armor. Off topick alert and QQing about archers
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 02:58:14 pm »
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I don't understand you... If an archer decides to use a good sideweapon, don't you think there are already a few possibilities that are even better? For example Warhammer... Mighty warhammer has 34 blunt dmg which is more than normal Long Iron Mace's dmg and it only takes 1 slot. Mace takes 1 slot as well. Same goes to Nordic Champ's Sword and other 1h weapons. Also Fighting Axe which has similar dmg and bonus against shield is 1 slot weapon... making bastard sword 1-slot weapon is nothing compared to the items that I mentioned before. Archers would have to drop 1 bag of arrows to use it anyway which means less pew pew and more fighting.

It is ridiculous that people are afraid of archers in melee lol... Especially that Bastard sword isn't that good, not to mention that archer that is good in melee can beat casual player with his 0 slot sideweapon anyway.
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 03:01:28 pm »
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why not, maybe some of them then decide to fight instead to delay  :mrgreen:

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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 03:07:20 pm »
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But when you put bastard swords one slot, ppl are going to QQ about katana that that is 2 slot and so on! You have to put the limit somewhere
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 03:38:43 pm »
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Lol ye.. Katana's weight and length are like in average 1h sword lol
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 03:44:23 pm »
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Lol ye.. Katana's weight and length are like in average 1h sword lol
Maybe the damage should be about the same too lol
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 04:12:13 pm »
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Yes gief more 2 handers  to archers :twisted:

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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 04:14:44 pm »
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also make arbalest 1slot and reloadable on horseback. 

but in all seriousness ya:  make the normal bastard 1 slot just for the variation. 

and the heavy lance.  just a joke.  or not.  maybe... no but seriously. the bastard sword
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 04:21:47 pm »
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I personally think any weapon held with 2 hands should be 2 slots.  If you want a 1 slot weapon, you should be required to use a 1h weapon.  I think being able to use a "shitty" 2h weapon with 1 slot is a huge advantage, because you have 2h WPF, and if need be, can find an amazing great sword on the ground and clean people up. 

But I know there are at least one other "bastard" weapon that is 1 slot, and can be wielded with 2 hands, the fighting axe is one, and I think the fighting pick is the other.  Both are under the 1h menu, but can be wielded 2h and take up 1 slot.  So I could see the argument for allowing other bastard weapons to be 1 slot too, but I'd prefer if every bastard and 2h weapon, was 2 slots.
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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 04:36:30 pm »
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IMO give bastard sword and long bastard sword and the longsword a 1h mode, keep them 2 slot.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: slot rebalance
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 04:37:22 pm »
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because you have 2h WPF, and if need be, can find an amazing great sword on the ground and clean people up. 
You don't need 2h wpf for that, lawl, all you need is 4ps.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.