Polearm/Pike Build advice/critiques

[TheGriffin88]

Hi all,

What would you suggest in regards to a pike build?

I want a bit of speed to dash in and out of attacks.

Here is one possible:

(Build 1)

Strength: 17
Agility: 21
Hit points: 60
Converted: 6
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7

Weapon Master: 5

Polearm: 148

Would 5 PS be enough or will I be to weak attack dmg wise? 

Alternatively there is:

(Build 2)

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 65
Converted: 2
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6


Weapon Master: 6

Polearm: 156

And finally a more speed orientated build:
(Build 3)

Strength: 12
Agility: 24
Hit points: 55
Converted: 2
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 5
Athletics: 8

Weapon Master: 8

Polearm: 173


Again would the low PS (4) and low HP make me a piece of paper merely scratching whoever I attack, or would that be mitigated by the speed I could get in and out of attacks?


I like a shield for just general play, though in most cases I will be fighting 2h I like the ability to put a shield on.  Or would you seriously recommend forgoing the shield for something like this:

(Build 4)

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 58
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 5

Athletics: 8

Weapon Master: 6

Polearm: 156


All the best.

[Whalen207]

Build four looks good.
WPF doesn't improve pike speed much, but it's still worth it.
Just use a cheap lv.0 shield.

[Dom.Miguel]

for the extra speed im thinking of going this with my speedy alt:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 9
    * Agility: 30
    * Hit points: 44

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 3
    * Shield: 0
    * Athletics: 10
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 10

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 190
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

[TheGriffin88]

I like how much speed you would have, but I want to be able to drop people pretty quickly as well.  I'm worried about having no shield skill as I like to be able to charge a few archers and such. What If I dropped one weapon master in order to get 1 shield skill?   

It would allow the Nordic shield with 240 def.

[Dom.Miguel]

sure im with lvl 8 wm and have 151 wpf in pole and 145 to spend ! hehehe so its cool get 2 shield skill but then you will not be as fast

[EliteDragon]

WaltF4 has a pretty nice Pike/PoleArm build. You should ask him when you get the chance; he's extremely deadly with his Pike.

[Cyclopsided]

All of them are OK builds, it is up to your playstyle.
I use a 9/30 build because i like the speed and I can block well enough that I don't need the HP as much.

[[ptx]]

I personally wouldn't recommend the high agi builds. Speed is nice, with 5 PS you might still be able to deal some decent damage (with a heirloomed pike!), but all that agi won't help you at all in a 1v1 situation, where you will simply glance with that little PS.
Consider a 21/18 build, or even a 24/15. Pike is a long weapon, speed is generally secondary to damage for it. With 7 or 8 PS you will deal very considerable damage and this will also allow you to defend yourself in a 1v1 situation with it, with good enough timing.
I had a 9/30 build last generation, with a deadly pike. It was horribad. Rolling a 21/15 cav/pikeman build now, it is so much better.

[Native_ATS]

I personally wouldn't recommend the high agi builds. Speed is nice, with 5 PS you might still be able to deal some decent damage (with a heirloomed pike!), but all that agi won't help you at all in a 1v1 situation, where you will simply glance with that little PS.
Consider a 21/18 build, or even a 24/15. Pike is a long weapon, speed is generally secondary to damage for it. With 7 or 8 PS you will deal very considerable damage and this will also allow you to defend yourself in a 1v1 situation with it, with good enough timing.
I had a 9/30 build last generation, with a deadly pike. It was horribad. Rolling a 21/15 cav/pikeman build now, it is so much better.

maybe you can undo the nerf on agi.... arnt you tried of all this str builds?

[[ptx]]

I guess that is a reaction to the massively overused agi-whore builds that were dominant pre-patch.

[Native_ATS]

I guess that is a reaction to the massively overused agi-whore builds that were dominant pre-patch.

well since u cant stack wpf... nerfing wm wasnt needed... you get way less out of wm now... the speed is also caped now.. so ath is crap, there is no reson to get high agi anymore at all... all you need is 9 and your good to go
at 9 u can get 100wpf in 2 diff classes, you can ride a pony, get a good sheild and have a shit ton of str 

[Christo]

I'd go 18/18 and put 6 into IF PS ATH and WM.
A nice all-around build.

Yeah, I love balanced characters.

You have nice speed, good damage, also health.

You can even go Lancer Cav with this build lol.

[Tor!]

Str 18
Agi 21

Ironflesh   2   
Power Strike   6   
Shield   2   
Athletics   7
Weapon master *   7

Polearm   164

This is what I've found working best for myself. Deadly with the pike and any other polearm. If you get a shitty shield you will hate yourself for it, since 70% of the crpg community is using some kind of ranged these days..

[TheGriffin88]

Precisely Aenur!,

Everyone and their mother has ranged, especially OP 1 hit nuclear kill throwing weapons.

I definitely want the ability to use a shield.

[Murchad]

I recommend decent agi for pikeman
i made a 15/24 polearms and a 27/12 polearms recently both using hafted knobbed mace and pike for backup on good cav maps
i found that the
15/24
5ps
2wm
8ath
8wm
was far superior for using the pike, this is due to the nature of how a pike is used.
I won't go into detail on that but could write a lengthly post about polearm tactics