Suggestions to less archer power and more fun and awesome easy tactic

[isatis]

SOOO

we all want those archer jerks be a little less more effective?? but how??

Archer say : use a shield nub!
but a shield protect only his bearer and even then... two archer fuck any shielder if the archers are a little better then a headlesss chicken!
archer : use lot more shield nuuuuuuuubbbbb QFW (shield wall)


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BUT now our shieldwall look like a stupid mob of mindless hero!

like that : team blue has good shield wall, team red is horrible and a bunch of archer would kill them!

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so how can we possibely fight those archer!

simple, it's already suggested MANY time but all we need is :

A command to walk at the same speed (0ath 3 agi for ref)

making TRUE shield wall will now work much more easily!

we need that implement!

please!

[CrazyCracka420]

Yeah being able to toggle a command to walk at the same speed would help formations/teamwork immensely. 

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Sounds great to me, since this doesn't really buff or nerf anything, just adds an option to walk a different pace. +1

[Dr_Pockets]

What if we made the walk button (Shift by default [I think]) make someone walk at a set pace. So even if a tin can without any ath and a ninja can walk at the same speed. 

[Gravoth_iii]

Walk button for the people! something like CTRL + movement makes you walk? or a button to toggle walking?

[Haboe]

Archer say : use a shield nub!
but a shield protect only his bearer and even then... two archer fuck any shielder if the archers are a little better then a headlesss chicken!

Just here to say I hate it when ppl use that argument...

2 archer fuck any shielder...
2 shielders fuck any archer, what you whining about the other way around? On even terms the shield wins, it takes double the amount of archers to kill a shielder.

[Gravoth_iii]

Just here to say I hate it when ppl use that argument...

2 archer fuck any shielder...
2 shielders fuck any archer, what you whining about the other way around? On even terms the shield wins, it takes double the amount of archers to kill a shielder.

I can survive 2 archer combo. 9 athl ftw.

[Rebelyell]

yep same speed in shielded would be awesome!

[isatis]

hum you are right but what if there is an archer and a two hander

in this two vs two situation well positionned archer should win because shielder can't protect the 2h who will die and then shielder is fucked

you can add another pole guy and they are doomed because archer just retreat jump shoot retreat and will win because shield protect only one direction

so yes it take two archer to kill one shielder but that shielder can't protect other people

and if we add other shielder to form a shieldwall to attack say... an hill

their speed difference will make them creat holes therefore making them useless

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at the end all we want is that toggle walk button, the thing against archer is just to attire the anti-ranged lobby !

[Sylfirus]

That is a good idea ! 1+
Imagine a real strat on EU 1 NEW  <3 <3

[[ptx]]

Beta client has a walk button.

[Jarlek]

Beta client has a walk button.

Even better. We have a walk button that you can customize to whatever you want.

Fuck yeah, beta!

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Damn, PTX. I wanted to tell them! I might make a video to show it instead then :/

[isatis]

hummm interesting

[Templar_Steevee]

It's normal that 2 players of any class can easy kill one guy.
You can dodge arrows, it's not so hard to do, some players are almost impossible to shot when they can see an archer aiming at them.
It's really funny to see ppl raging about archers. I'm playing as an archer because i like it and i just love when ppl rage when i shot them or kill their horses.
it's normal that archers are flanking enemies to kill shielders.
Anyway that's a nice idea until it will give some extra force field defending from missels coming from a siede.

[Zerran]

Just here to say I hate it when ppl use that argument...

2 archer fuck any shielder...
2 shielders fuck any archer, what you whining about the other way around? On even terms the shield wins, it takes double the amount of archers to kill a shielder.

Not correct.

2 archers vs 2 shielders, the archers just have to go in opposite directions (which they almost always do anyway) and shoot at the shielder(s) that run at their buddy (who will have his back turned to them) This is basically what they all do anyway, without guidance, as this tactic requires no real communication or planning.

2 shielders vs 1 archer, unless those are some damn fast shielders with some really high shield skill, the archer can shoot their feet and just keep kiting. He literally has to run out of ammo before he can lose as long as he doesn't do something totally stupid. This is especially true since the shields that are best suited for protecting the user's feet (the tall, thin ones) have been nerfed such that in melee it's really easy to just hit around them, so most people use the round shields.

All that said, I'm not terribly fond of comparing things like this, as there are always exceptions and "what if"s. My real complaints here are #1, shielders don't counter archers any more than a 2H hero, and #2, archer kiting is boring as hell.